[3.7] Ahfack's Crimson Cyclone | Shaper FULL Life Kill Vid | 100% Pure Phys | All Content | PoBs

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s191417nq escribió:

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Avelanh escribió:

20-30 ex is not budget lol. Also read Disclaimer if you can read at all.

Different builds have different costs. For 2h cyclone, a Starforge is at least 7ex, Disfavor is at least 4. Adding up the extra cost for 6L, A legit 6L weapon alone will cost 10-15 ex. You tell me what budget range would be considered as "cheap"? 20ex is definitely a starter budget for any 2H cyclone build if you dont want it to be shitty.

What the hell are you talking about? I killed Shaper, Red Elder and 4-Way Legion with a 1 ALCH 4-link Sinvicta and a generic corrupted 20 Chaos 6 Link Chest. Budget means maybe 1-2 EX invested for 99.9% of players. If you take the budget suggestions of this build you can easily do all Non-Über Content. You might struggle a bit with T14+ Legion and corrupted guardians but that's to be expected for budget gear

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crazypearce escribió:

never heard that 'rule' in my life. 100% impale and extra stacks is a completely new mechanic this league. why the fuck wouldn't you add the mechanic in if PoB can't calculate it? it gives you an indication of what you can expect in single target fights.

if you wanted to be a PoB warrior you could just switch to berserker, give yourself 50 rage and easily double the dmg. becasue PoB can actually calculate berserker dps, unlike slayer

and yes, this build is shit, hence why it's the most popular cyclone build around, can clear all content, and while not completely updated for legion (if you notice he hasn't played the league at all so how can he update it completely) it's far from a 'shitty' build

I never said cyclone is a shitty build, but specifically his 2h cyclone with kaom's heart. I believe it still has decent clear speed, or even the ability to do all content. But standing in the big family of cyclone builds, comparing to its siblings, it's really nothing special. It's just a mediocre build idea.

What makes me mad is this guy was using a showcase full of legacy & mirror items and made some unfair changes on PoB settings, to almost intentionally mislead people to believe this build is awesome, 30m shaper DPS and shit. But it really isnt. If you set the filter right on ninja, you will find how pathetic this idea really is. Most of the people are struggling at 1m dps with 6k-ish hp, which definitely belong to the bottom half of all cyclone builds.

And yes, those 1m DPS must have been undervalued. But which slayer build on ninja hasnt? With more well-calculated setups some slayer builds can reach up to 3m-5m DPS or even higher by the same standard, and still with decent hp pool. That's the builds a smart person should follow.

Idk, is it really necessary to defend a shitty guide maker like him? This guy is literally just selling his mirrored rings. Cmon, wake up.

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Sttorr escribió:

What the hell are you talking about? I killed Shaper, Red Elder and 4-Way Legion with a 1 ALCH 4-link Sinvicta and a generic corrupted 20 Chaos 6 Link Chest. Budget means maybe 1-2 EX invested for 99.9% of players. If you take the budget suggestions of this build you can easily do all Non-Über Content. You might struggle a bit with T14+ Legion and corrupted guardians but that's to be expected for budget gear

No need to be mad. We might have different understandings for what a budget build is. But that's not important.

Would you kindly import your budget gear into the PoB with OP's talent tree? I want see how big the gap is between 30 MILLION DPS and your actual budget DPS.

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s191417nq escribió:

...Speaking of PoEninja, the ladder itself is almost a solid proof that your build is shit. Most 2h axe cycloners with kaoms heart are still struggling at 1m DPS and 6k-ish hp. None of them have ever achieved 30m shaper dps even with your cheating PoB settings, not even close.

You should demand to speak to a manager and get your money back.

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s191417nq escribió:

Would you kindly import your budget gear into the PoB with OP's talent tree? I want see how big the gap is between 30 MILLION DPS and your actual budget DPS.

What's the point? League budget gear is of course a million times worse than standard gear. The original version of the build is RT non-crit. That's the focus of the guide until Ahfack posts a new update.
The crit version is just an example of the best possible gear in standard and nothing remotely possible in a league. I recommend reading the whole guide and all remarks of the author before drawing false conclusions

The cost of Cyclone with 7link fortify and -9 mana cost on ring is not 1 mana as you mention in this guide but 2. Check your facts.

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s191417nq escribió:

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Sttorr escribió:

What the hell are you talking about? I killed Shaper, Red Elder and 4-Way Legion with a 1 ALCH 4-link Sinvicta and a generic corrupted 20 Chaos 6 Link Chest. Budget means maybe 1-2 EX invested for 99.9% of players. If you take the budget suggestions of this build you can easily do all Non-Über Content. You might struggle a bit with T14+ Legion and corrupted guardians but that's to be expected for budget gear

No need to be mad. We might have different understandings for what a budget build is. But that's not important.

Would you kindly import your budget gear into the PoB with OP's talent tree? I want see how big the gap is between 30 MILLION DPS and your actual budget DPS.

Here's my poe.ninja link https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Slottm/Slarnigante?i=13&search=class%3DSlayer%26skill%3DCyclone%26weapon%3DTwo-Handed-Axe%26skillmode%3DTotem

Where it shows i have 890k dps. Yet I insta phase uber elder kills and do them in sub 2 minutes. Where neither this nor POB can calculate my imperial gem that gives me over 20% more damage. Where pride doesn't get calculated properly because it scales up over time, and makes monsters take more damage, rather than increasing my damage. Where flesh and stone is maiming my enemy, making it take more damage. Also not calculated. Where I have a 7 hit impale that increases my damage by 150% that doesn't get shown. Where I have additional attack speed, cull, and totems that increase my damage by several more million. Where nearby monsters are taking additional damage, yet doesn't get calculated. Where I do more damage while leeching, attacking bosses, and have insane survivability - have been clearing everything in the game...easily. Have cleared every boss, 3+ rows in a 4 way legion (can't wait to try 5)

890k. Sounds about right. My uber elder kills should be taking a hell of a lot longer then.

My plan was to get this build to level 95, but at lv 93 i'm struggling to get exp without dying to much. And usually i die cause of these legion rares.

Any advice for leveling those last few levels? Should i just ignore legion encounters if i wanna gain exp? Which kind of tier maps would be safest for me to farm for exp at lv 93?

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s191417nq escribió:

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Sttorr escribió:

What the hell are you talking about? I killed Shaper, Red Elder and 4-Way Legion with a 1 ALCH 4-link Sinvicta and a generic corrupted 20 Chaos 6 Link Chest. Budget means maybe 1-2 EX invested for 99.9% of players. If you take the budget suggestions of this build you can easily do all Non-Über Content. You might struggle a bit with T14+ Legion and corrupted guardians but that's to be expected for budget gear

No need to be mad. We might have different understandings for what a budget build is. But that's not important.

Would you kindly import your budget gear into the PoB with OP's talent tree? I want see how big the gap is between 30 MILLION DPS and your actual budget DPS.

You are literally the one who is getting upset about this guide lol. For less than 20 ex I have an insane cyclone build which cleans everything I want... If you just care about your cute little numbers just go somewhere else and stop winning like a baby. Yeah he is playing with insane standard gears but it doesn't matter at all, the build works just fine in league for an average investment for casual player.

And BTW 20ex is not budget... 2c is what we call a budget build...

move along and let some players enjoying this build

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Grimstarz escribió:

My plan was to get this build to level 95, but at lv 93 i'm struggling to get exp without dying to much. And usually i die cause of these legion rares.

Any advice for leveling those last few levels? Should i just ignore legion encounters if i wanna gain exp? Which kind of tier maps would be safest for me to farm for exp at lv 93?

I am trying to get some armour on the gears which helps a little, you also can put molten shell or steelskin to absorb a little of the legion burst.