Block incin and stuff *Discontinued due to Incinerate nerfs*

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Theovide escribió:

I'm sorry if this is a noob question :p. But what's the point of the level 1 CWDT? To proc things like ignite and shock or?

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brunowa escribió:

For those that have killed Atziri, I'd love to know your:

Character Level:
Life:
ES:
Armour (no flasks):
Evasion (no flasks):
Block Chance (no flasks):
Spell Block Chance (no flasks):
Base DPS (with LMP and no flasks):

If you can copy/paste above and fill it out that would be seriously awesome!!!! I'd love to get a comparison on this and see if I'm ready to take her down.

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skippyta escribió:

I had something like:

Level 82
1.7k ES
4.2k life
200 armor (ish)
0 evasion
62% block
~40% spell block
5 link chest
Tooltip DPS (LMP): 7k
Tooltip DPS (SP): ~11k
Incinerate 0 quality, level 19

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skippyta escribió:

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brunowa escribió:

For those that have killed Atziri, I'd love to know your:

Character Level:
Life:
ES:
Armour (no flasks):
Evasion (no flasks):
Block Chance (no flasks):
Spell Block Chance (no flasks):
Base DPS (with LMP and no flasks):

If you can copy/paste above and fill it out that would be seriously awesome!!!! I'd love to get a comparison on this and see if I'm ready to take her down.

I can't remember my stats when I first did Atziri, but I did it with Rainbowstrides, a Lazhwar, Cybil's, and no Rathpith.

I had something like:

Level 82
1.7k ES
4.2k life
200 armor (ish)
0 evasion
62% block
~40% spell block
5 link chest
Tooltip DPS (LMP): 7k
Tooltip DPS (SP): ~11k
Incinerate 0 quality, level 19


I ran an anti shock topaz for the double vaal, double staunching granite for trio, and double ruby for Atziri. I was running 3 health flasks of various kinds (mostly seething and some other kind of combination).

Frankly, this build can run Atziri pretty comfortably from a very early stage. More block is just quality of life. It's just a matter of getting the mechanics of the Atziri fight down (in particular, the trio is the most dangerous, as you can easily get stunlocked or block-locked and two-shot by the Ranged mob's physical rain). My advice for running Atziri would be the following:

Preface
For your block jewels, try to stack at least a LITTLE bit of projectile speed. This is just a quality of life improvement to give you more range and comfort when using Slower Projectiles for DPS. I'm running an aggressive amount right now actually - something like 38% from jewels alone, on top of 20 quality on my Incinerate gem. This will also help a lot to make the Atziri adds phase much simpler to full-clear.

Double Vaal
During the double Vaal fight, spawn the one on the right first, but position yourself to the left of it so you can easily reach the other one with a single Whirling Blades. This is a micro optimization. If you have enough spell block and EHP, feel free to just sit and tank everything that isn't a Vaal slam. I have tanked 6+ lasers to the face without an anti-shock flask with 75% spell block. If you have less, don't use WB to dodge. Just walk around the lasers. Dodge the lightning balls with WB though, and WB through Vaal slams whenever you see them. You should be able to react to a Vaal slam even from a frenzied Vaal just by WB'ing through.

Trio
For trio, the kill order from first to last is:
Ranged
Dual Strike
Cyclone

You NEED to be careful of the ranged mob if you're not running IC self cast. The phys rain is simply too much, even with my current gear (linked below). If I see the ranged mob lift her hand to shoot spikes (even if it's not the phys storm, but just the rain of arrows), I WB until I see her calm down and resume fighting.

WB will outrun all of the trio at all stages if you need to run around and regen. If you're clever about it, you can actually drop aggro from the Trio mobs and just kill adds to refill flasks without having to TP out.

I started out using LMP during this phase, but now I run SP just to get it over even faster. It's much safer to run with more range on your incinerate here if you're not super comfortable with the fight.

Also, be sure to keep your Tempest Shield up at all times once the ranged add mobs start to spawn. If you're not blinding them, you're going to have a bad time. If you're TS is high enough, you'll actually end up killing a lot of them passively for flask refills too, which is nice.

Atziri
For Atziri, you should be able to face tank the spears. Just switch to LMP during the add phase and back to SP for all the other phases. Use WB to chase her around and dodge storm calls. Even with max spell block, you do NOT want to get hit by multiple storm calls without a Topaz anti-shock. It's just too risky. Ruby flask makes it possible to tank double flameblasts (4.2k life). Just chip her down at whatever pace you're comfortable and dodge around and away from the flameblasts and stormcalls and you should be able to handle this with ease. If you're bleeding, movement is still possible with WB.

This build trivializes normal Atziri to a healthy degree. I'm not currently geared to handle Uber, nor do I have experience with that fight, but I imagine a self-cast Temp Chains and self-cast IC are necessary for the trio fight. Double Vaal I imagine would be a lot of the same, just you need to be more careful about killing the two of them at roughly the same time.

Uber Atziri seems to be a little bit difficult with the buffs to phys damage. I would feel uncomfortable running her without a 6L lightning coil, personally, but again I'm just speculating.

Here's my current gear and rough stats:

FYI I'm running some really clowny gear right now just to stack chaos res for fun, and the unset ring with Portal is just to make running shards less draining on my TP stacks haha. I usually run a higher life ring.

Current Stats
4.8k life
2.3k ES
Tooltip DPS (LMP): 13k
Tooltip DPS (SP): 18k
Tooltip DPS (SP + Atziri Flask): 22k
Block: 68%
Spell Block: 75%
Level 90

I have capped Chaos Res and overcapped other res. Because of the capped chaos res, I can tank the bleeding clouds from the Cycloner in the trio easily and just gun him down without even having to move (need to run anti-bleed constantly, though).

Something I said before that the OP flamed me for, but I stand by adamantly: this build has a low-ish DPS ceiling. I can barely push 100k fully buffed using SP, Atziri Flasks, and frenzy charges, but this is with some seriously ridiculous gear (my Rathpith is super GG, several of my jewels have extra damage in addition to block, etc). Eventually, after 6L, 21/20 incinerate (SUPER important to get 21), and 20/20 on everything else, it becomes very hard to find ways to push the bar on the damage for this build while maintaining maxed block potential. With the nerf to block chance on jewels (2% max -> 1% max), it's extremely hard to cap block on this build until the late levels (I think you can actually pick up some nodes on the far right side of the tree as you approach level 100 that will let you cap both block and spell block). That said, it's super tanky, and my deaths are now all due to me being careless / absentminded. Double/triple voidspawn, no problem.

Phys damage is also a huge problem for this build without an Armor/ES chest and/or a lightning coil, but that's the same for everyone.

GL!