3.17 TOXIC RAIN CHAMPION - Fast, Tanky, Deadly! - League-Start to End-Game

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grimjack68 escribió:

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ZwarteReetschopper escribió:

I got 6 projectiles at the moment Helm enchant), but also use an elevated explode mod on my chest, which gives me 8-12% increased Area of effect. With Anomalous conc effect, 0% on toxic rain quality and without the bow mastery My AOE for toxic rain is 0.65% Area. Is this worth doing or should I just leave it at the 1.39 I have now?

Thnx

That's really close... can you divine your chest to slightly less AOE to hit the ideal number?

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grimjack68 escribió:

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Turtledove escribió:

I recently got this thing.

There was some discussion around page 56 or so about someone else with six arrows and trying to get AOE right. I didn't really understand all of Grimjack's response. I'm more interested in boss fights and tanky defense than fast map clearing. Would it be worth switching to 6 arrows and if so what should my AOE value be set to (it's currently .39)? Thanks

6 arrows is great for bossing, and the difference in clear is barely noticeable.

For 6 arrows, you want 0.63 AOE modifier. For this you need to:
- Drop quality on your TR gem to 0, or swap to Anomalous with any quality
- Drop the 20% AOE Bow Mastery node on the tree
- Drop the 9% crafted affix from your amulet or gloves
- Swap your TR Efficacy (blue) gem to an Anomalous quality concentrated effect with 15% quality

There was another way, but I can't recall the exact details. I've worked this out from what I was running last league.

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Turtledove escribió:

So I think that I've completed your list of changes except my Anomalous Concentrated Effect is only 11% quality. My problem is that I can't find the AOE modifier value on my character. I'm reluctant to apply any additional GCP to the concentrated effect gem until I verify what the AOE modifier is currently sitting at.

Any other suggestions would also be appreciated. I know though that the base for my bow and quiver are not ideal. I crafted those originally for a Caustic Arrow build that I previously played.

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grimjack68 escribió:

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Turtledove escribió:

So I think that I've completed your list of changes except my Anomalous Concentrated Effect is only 11% quality. My problem is that I can't find the AOE modifier value on my character. I'm reluctant to apply any additional GCP to the concentrated effect gem until I verify what the AOE modifier is currently sitting at.

Any other suggestions would also be appreciated. I know though that the base for my bow and quiver are not ideal. I crafted those originally for a Caustic Arrow build that I previously played.

You are currently at 0.65. In POB, under the calculations tab, select the main Toxic Rain skill at the top, then look under the box for skill type-specific stats:, second to the last item in the list is Area of Effect Mod:

If you boost the quality on your concentrated effect to 15, you should be right at the sweet spot of 0.63.

After that, a couple gem levels would be really nice... level 21 TR gem, amulet with +1 (or +2) to gem levels. You are weak in attack speed as well. Ideally you would have attack speed on your quiver and gloves, and be using a bow base with 1.5 aps - thicket, short, or grove. You could also drop second wind for a vaal haste, and use it on bosses.

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brunowa escribió:

Also, to check Area of Effect, you can click on your character sheet, select your TR setup, and see it in the damage tab. I don't trust POB 100% :)

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Turtledove escribió:

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brunowa escribió:

Also, to check Area of Effect, you can click on your character sheet, select your TR setup, and see it in the damage tab. I don't trust POB 100% :)

I think it makes slightly more sense to me. As I understand it 6 arrows you want 0.63 AOE modifier and for 5 arrow really 1.39 AOE modifier. What I didn't find in this thread was an explanation as to how the AOE modifier impacts the build. Is it the vines work better? Or why 6 arrows has a smaller AOE sweet spot than 5 arrows?

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Turtledove escribió:

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brunowa escribió:

Also, to check Area of Effect, you can click on your character sheet, select your TR setup, and see it in the damage tab. I don't trust POB 100% :)

I think it makes slightly more sense to me. As I understand it 6 arrows you want 0.63 AOE modifier and for 5 arrow really 1.39 AOE modifier. What I didn't find in this thread was an explanation as to how the AOE modifier impacts the build. Is it the vines work better? Or why 6 arrows has a smaller AOE sweet spot than 5 arrows?