[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Graiaule escribió:

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whiterockxx escribió:

I usually use wave of conviction / orb of storms / spark or arc, with 2 wands

How do you even aim your sparks -- I've tried!? I haven't tried arc though.

Cast orb of storm, stay inside the circle hold shift, or set the skill to use without move and just span the lightning spells (WoC, spark or arc). Usually i do it before reach around lvl 40-50 The whispering ice staffs start to pop up for trade.

By the way, i aways expend 10-15 regret points after i buy my first whispering ice, because i set lot of points in spell damage / wand damage and cst speed / light damage on low levels.

Thats how i preffer to start and am used!

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whiterockxx escribió:

Cast orb of storm, stay inside the circle hold shift, or set the skill to use without move and just span the lightning spells (WoC, spark or arc). Usually i do it before reach around lvl 40-50 The whispering ice staffs start to pop up for trade.

By the way, i aways expend 10-15 regret points after i buy my first whispering ice, because i set lot of points in spell damage / wand damage and cst speed / light damage on low levels.

Thats how i preffer to start and am used!

Yeah I just recently learned I was supposed to stay inside the orb of storms rather than cast it and move away. Explains a lot...

If you're doing that (burning regrets) I assume you're going to the cluster tree immediately...

I dont, I go first for the non cluster, with lots of blute force and fertile mind jewels, as soon as i find 2 INT/armour split personality i swap to cluster.

Usually i use lots of regrets, to keep changing the tree to best fit every step of my gear progression.

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Graiaule escribió:

The CWDT change is irrelevant to us, we don't use it for damage.

The mana reservation means we'll need Enlighten 4 and probably a 1% mana reservation affix on one jewel (same problem for the Occultist version.)

Requiring Enlighten 4 for a build to be viable is Ludacris on it's face. Shits too expensive on top of all of the other expensive crap this build needs at end game.

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RaGe0uS escribió:

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Graiaule escribió:

The CWDT change is irrelevant to us, we don't use it for damage.

The mana reservation means we'll need Enlighten 4 and probably a 1% mana reservation affix on one jewel (same problem for the Occultist version.)

Requiring Enlighten 4 for a build to be viable is Ludacris on it's face. Shits too expensive on top of all of the other expensive crap this build needs at end game.

It's for the high-high-high-end lategame version of the build. You can get going for a few chaos and build on that without ever needing the lvl 4 enlighten. Dont let the theorycrafting scare you off. Its a very strong build for a low investment.

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RaGe0uS escribió:

Requiring Enlighten 4 for a build to be viable is Ludacris on it's face. Shits too expensive on top of all of the other expensive crap this build needs at end game.

Keep in mind, that Enlighten is not needed as long you dont want to squeeze as much auras as possible and dont want to improve any build the best as you can.

Each offensive aura gives around +15% damage and we can use 2... using just 1 you dont even need any enlighten and that much reservation efficiency.

The characters that you saw here or on poe.ninja or youtube steam rolling the content are high-end characters, you dont need those expensive itens to play and have fun.

But if want to do uber pinnacle bosses / high IIQ the feared flawlessly, you better have good items. And this apply to any build, not just The Whispering Ice!

Just go playing, running maps and improving the char when possible.. you will enjoy the build during those steps 😁

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RaGe0uS escribió:

Requiring Enlighten 4 for a build to be viable is Ludacris on it's face. Shits too expensive on top of all of the other expensive crap this build needs at end game.

As others have said, it's not required. I was just theorycrafting. We will adapt our auras when the time comes (basically when the new PoB is released.)

I took out the 15% reservation and turned off clarity and was more or less able to play as is with enlighten 3. So with 6% mana reservation we should be okay (from jewels.)

By the way, enlighten 4 should be obtained via divination cards. Doing that saved about 2ex during the sentinel league.

Now that patch notes have released anybody got a loot filter they use while levelling I can steal for practice runs , thanks in advance this would really help me out for practice runs and league start . Also slightly of point but icicle mines I don't get because the damage seems low considering form act 1-3 were not getting much from the tree and so wouldn't storm blast be better with orb of storms or is levelling till act 3 more item dependant where you try and keep up with wands with added damage to spells and then act 3 if you don't have a chaos orb / equivalent you farm the league mechanic for the staff then its smooth sailing ?

@Gamerking1000: generally speaking it's painful to level up as scion. I've always given up on mines and switched back to freezing pulse and just plink, plink, plink the monsters. The int nodes and the cold damage cluster do help, as does +1 to cold level and high spell damage wands. Added lightning damage too.

What I finally figured out two leagues ago was that it was worth using frost bomb also as a fire and forget on the trash (3L and then 4L until I got the staff.)

Basically it sucks until level 33 or you get the staff.

whiterockx's approach is to stick with orb of storms/spark/arc and also choose spell damage passives. However, his approach burns your respec points.

I wonder... the Trickster ascendancy looks so good, Whispering Ice would be crazy good defensively if built on Trickster, wouldn't it.