[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Kelvynn escribió:

Hey guys! I'm back for the Heist league. I skipped the Harvest league (quit it after 5 days) because managing the farm was taking much more time than mapping, and watching the grass grow is not my idea of playing this game :)

I was going to ask about new developments and how the top players adapted after the end of the Delirium Golden Age. How hard was it to obtain the cluster jewels, which ones were still good, etc etc

But then I saw the patch notes...

50% more base damage with half the hit rate. That's a nerf...

Lower base duration is not really a big deal, especially with the duration nodes. Not a lot of bosses stand still for 5+ seconds.

The impact/area change is a BUFF, making each icicle much more likely to hit the target. This can prove a big positive change. It was always hard to calculate how many icicles actually hit. Now it looks like most of them will hit, or even all of them on a large boss.

Increased effectiveness of added flat damage may make Aw Added Cold worth using? Will need to check in PoB when it's updated.

But the 5 storm limit confuses me. It doesn't make any sense! Especially seeing as Firestorm is limited to only 3. So, if you cast Firestorm with ASC - do you just LOSE 2 storms out of the 5???

If somebody knows a good place where this question can be asked, can we find out? Maybe that limit doesn't apply to additional storms created by SC/ASC and all storms created by 1 cast are counted as 1 towards that limit of 5? That way, if you use ASC, you can actually have 25 storms (or 15 with the regular SC).

If the limit is 5 total storms regardless of how they were created, then SC/ASC is dead right now. Same as it was dead back in some league when they changed something about it and SC stopped working with channelled skills, and we played without that gem for a while until it was fixed. But I'm sure it can't stay that way forever, if only because of the obvious nonsense with Firestorm + ASC.

Another idea that I see already mentioned is adding a secondary channelled skill. Firestorm is definitely not it, since it scales in a completely different way, and this build has almost nothing for it. But a cold skill maybe? Cold Snap? Freezing Pulse? Those have a very high added flat damage effectiveness as well.

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whiterockx escribió:

This is how my Ice/Fire 2k INT performed with crap items using Less duration to simulate the future.

But remember, the hits will be more consistent due to decrease area of effect and increased shard area hit... and the First fire hit will do 150% more dmg

The E.E makes it feel a bit better... maybe

https://youtu.be/c0wFMH_6ZSs

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Hemzokuken escribió:

Everyone needs to think about it like this....

Every .2 seconds you're casting twice the damage with more getting hit by each explosion.

Don't think of it as a trail of storms but as a 5 explosion cycle resetting instantly with a storm tick of double damage every .2 seconds

Now that flat damage will scale slightly better you can cast 5 storms per second so it would be no different to an ice crash build without stopping to use ice crash?

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Hemzokuken escribió:

Everyone needs to think about it like this....

Every .2 seconds you're casting twice the damage with more getting hit by each explosion.

Don't think of it as a trail of storms but as a 5 explosion cycle resetting instantly with a storm tick of double damage every .2 seconds

Now that flat damage will scale slightly better you can cast 5 storms per second so it would be no different to an ice crash build without stopping to use ice crash?

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Gracieux escribió:

To WI or not to WI? That AIN'T a question. DO IT!