[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Necro_42739 escribió:

I know this is the Scion thread, but I play this build as a Witch, and would like to update it with the Split Personalities and stuff.

Is it too much to ask if LiNGeN or Breken (or whoever creates this superteched sScion-trees) could post a theoretical Witch-tree?


I have the Jewels and Clusters, I just can't find a good pathing. :(

Thanks in advance, guys.

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LiNGeN escribió:

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PleiadesBlackstar escribió:

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Similar questions too if my wife hasn't pumped enough currency into the build. We've gotten plenty of intelligence only split personalities no watchers eye yet. Need to finish crafting her chest better but currently decently rolled just peaking over 8k es without intelligence and energy shield split personalities. Cluster jewels are subpar waiting for right ones to drop or be able to craft better.

But she's hit a wall in later red maps as plenty of delirium effects or bosses one shot her or close to it as it's difficult to follow effects under the ice storm. But other than those few hiccups it clears the rest of maps beautifully.

And just the other day her cyclone keeps failing to start at random. We have already ruled out any possible mana issues somehow, no mobs even alive to stun her in any way. Is that something to do with pathfinding with cwc or something if you have experienced it? I'm doing a cyclone slayer this league and have had zero similar issues starting up my cyclone. It has been stun by mob or nothing.

Do you have any recommendations on order of next upgrades to save for and secondly do you experience similar problems and it just doesn't show in videos you have up? Also how important do you feel stampede is as we had avoided it for now as resists are tight as is but starting to wonder if a second anointed item makes a big enough difference and how smooth the anti slow effect makes it look.

Edit: I should add I haven't done a CI build since before the es nerfs. So 8k seems like plenty for most content but I am starting to assume you do have to push to hit 10k+ to have a much more valuable safety net?

You can do most content with lower than 10K ES but then you have to manually avoid more deadly boss attacks & in general avoid most stuff. If you need to be able to tank some of these deadly hits you need to invest into more ES or add mitigations such as Fortify Support linked to Cyclone or add the Overlord notable. Enduring Focus, Flesh and Stone, Wise Oak/Basalt Flask/Taste of Hate also add mitigation.

Personally I don't use The Stampede so its a matter of QoL.

The only things that can stop Cyclone:
* Mana (check mana reservation, tweak with mana cost enchants/et.c, make sure arcane surge is always active for mana regen)
* Maps with mod "Players cannot regenerate life/mana/energ shield" and no "Enduring" Mana flask equipped
* Baran influenced maps Mana/DoT debuff squares (assign move only hotkey)
* Cursed with silence (use Hex Breaker or "of Warding" flask)
* You use Predictive networking mode and get desynced as stuck on something serverside (however you actually keep spinning clientside but this can be combined with any of the above)
* You use another non-instant skill that cancels cyclone

We are stun immune due to Occultist Ascendancy, but also while channeling Cyclone, we're immune to all stun and knockback.

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Sezth escribió:

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LiNGeN escribió:

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PleiadesBlackstar escribió:

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Similar questions too if my wife hasn't pumped enough currency into the build. We've gotten plenty of intelligence only split personalities no watchers eye yet. Need to finish crafting her chest better but currently decently rolled just peaking over 8k es without intelligence and energy shield split personalities. Cluster jewels are subpar waiting for right ones to drop or be able to craft better.

But she's hit a wall in later red maps as plenty of delirium effects or bosses one shot her or close to it as it's difficult to follow effects under the ice storm. But other than those few hiccups it clears the rest of maps beautifully.

And just the other day her cyclone keeps failing to start at random. We have already ruled out any possible mana issues somehow, no mobs even alive to stun her in any way. Is that something to do with pathfinding with cwc or something if you have experienced it? I'm doing a cyclone slayer this league and have had zero similar issues starting up my cyclone. It has been stun by mob or nothing.

Do you have any recommendations on order of next upgrades to save for and secondly do you experience similar problems and it just doesn't show in videos you have up? Also how important do you feel stampede is as we had avoided it for now as resists are tight as is but starting to wonder if a second anointed item makes a big enough difference and how smooth the anti slow effect makes it look.

Edit: I should add I haven't done a CI build since before the es nerfs. So 8k seems like plenty for most content but I am starting to assume you do have to push to hit 10k+ to have a much more valuable safety net?

You can do most content with lower than 10K ES but then you have to manually avoid more deadly boss attacks & in general avoid most stuff. If you need to be able to tank some of these deadly hits you need to invest into more ES or add mitigations such as Fortify Support linked to Cyclone or add the Overlord notable. Enduring Focus, Flesh and Stone, Wise Oak/Basalt Flask/Taste of Hate also add mitigation.

Personally I don't use The Stampede so its a matter of QoL.

The only things that can stop Cyclone:
* Mana (check mana reservation, tweak with mana cost enchants/et.c, make sure arcane surge is always active for mana regen)
* Maps with mod "Players cannot regenerate life/mana/energ shield" and no "Enduring" Mana flask equipped
* Baran influenced maps Mana/DoT debuff squares (assign move only hotkey)
* Cursed with silence (use Hex Breaker or "of Warding" flask)
* You use Predictive networking mode and get desynced as stuck on something serverside (however you actually keep spinning clientside but this can be combined with any of the above)
* You use another non-instant skill that cancels cyclone

We are stun immune due to Occultist Ascendancy, but also while channeling Cyclone, we're immune to all stun and knockback.

Just want to add you can get immunity against silence by corrupted mod on jewels

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Asag escribió:

I made my first amulet but Im not happy with the result:

No spot for crafting and 4 trash mods (well maybe crit somehow usefull to proc more often overload but with so many storms up I dont think so).

Im thinking about annul orbs but Im not sure, I was never lucky with them. If I remove one of the mods can I get it back by alch/chaos spam or its better to just get one more awakener orb?

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rafa290 escribió:

I'm new to this build, but I love to death the whispering ice. I just put arround 50ex on this char, but I don't think it is nearly as strong as it should be. I still have low ES (9k) and int (2353) and I don't know where to get more. I know that I can change my split personality jewels for ES and that's what is giving me hope about the ES. But the int I really don't see where can I get 1.5k more than I have.

If someone could take a look in my pob and help me I would appreciate very much.

https://pastebin.com/TGKHbzPb