Block incin and stuff *Discontinued due to Incinerate nerfs*

/shrug, if anything Incinerate needs a nerf in early-mid game power up until level ~60. In late-game mapping, even with a lot of DPS on Incinerate, the skill is vastly outclassed in clearspeed by many other skills like SRS, PA, Reave, Split Arrow, VAAL SPARK etc. The fact that you have to stand still and cast is already a huge drawback in a fast paced game.

Lets see if GGG understands this or they make Incinerate unplayable.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Editado por útlima vez por yotmato en 5 dic. 2015 5:13:36
Well guys.

Was a good ride while it lasted, but Incinerate will completely fall off the meta, and it will probably be borderline unplayable in a few days, thanks to Rory and Qarl incompetence :)

I'm sorry. But as of right now I declare this build officially dead.

Its obvious that Rory and Qarl don't play the game and just base their balance off numbers and Reddit whine, sad days for PoE! Another ~5-6 months of stale meta incoming!
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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My new build will be a Shadow Contagion Trapper
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Dup
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Editado por útlima vez por yotmato en 6 dic. 2015 23:59:05
So on top of Flat DMG nerf we got shadow area nerf, dunno what to get instead now.
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r00teniy escribió:
So on top of Flat DMG nerf we got shadow area nerf, dunno what to get instead now.


Despite popular belief, incinerate damage late-game was already hard to scale, specially in parties, you needed 6link chest and empower 3-4 to do any significant damage compared to other meta skills like SRS.

According to the manifesto they will nerf the %more multiplier per stage, that is an IMMENSE nerf, not only to this build but to every incinerate build in general.

As you said, Shadow area is nerfed by making Sniper way harder to get, forcing us to spend very inefficient points to even consider getting it.

There's no point to think about this skill anymore, GGG is forcing a meta change down our throats, lets just embrace it I guess.

Contagion will be crazy strong, other spells too will probably be strong but need to look at patch notes to know for sure.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Editado por útlima vez por yotmato en 7 dic. 2015 1:30:21
seems like GGG loves nerfing skills that is popular, rather than it being OP.

I seriously have no idea how incinerate at late game is considered OP, many other skills outclass it by a huge margin

oh well, incinerate was fun while it lasted, and a big thanks to yotmato for this build!
It seems this build has diededed :S

ps 100% chaos incinerate still seems viable to me. With all the upgrades to the chaos damage it should be ez to fix dmg deficit.
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Editado por útlima vez por eragon1111 en 7 dic. 2015 10:06:12
To be fair, if Incinerate damage hasn't been nerfed TOO BADLY (such as not over 50% overall damage) I can still see this build being very viable. I remember your original posts on this build back when we used temp chains with abyssal cry to slow everything the fuck down. You included a few lines about your build's intent to survive while at least doing consistent but at least mediocre or better damage and you did this through a phenomenal variety of effects without it being overly annoying or expensive to pull off.

I think this intent still applies, just that the damage might suck, but the defense should still be really good. But then again... I know nothing about 2.0 and 2.1 skill tree differences so it might be too early to say that.

That being said, your new shadow trapper build looks extremely awesome and I'm gonna go that this time around... 2.1 is definitely going to be the Patch of Chaos Damage.
Editado por útlima vez por nakieon en 7 dic. 2015 21:34:46
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nakieon escribió:
To be fair, if Incinerate damage hasn't been nerfed TOO BADLY (such as not over 50% overall damage) I can still see this build being very viable. I remember your original posts on this build back when we used temp chains with abyssal cry to slow everything the fuck down. You included a few lines about your build's intent to survive while at least doing consistent but at least mediocre or better damage and you did this through a phenomenal variety of effects without it being overly annoying or expensive to pull off.

I think this intent still applies, just that the damage might suck, but the defense should still be really good. But then again... I know nothing about 2.0 and 2.1 skill tree differences so it might be too early to say that.

That being said, your new shadow trapper build looks extremely awesome and I'm gonna go that this time around... 2.1 is definitely going to be the Patch of Chaos Damage.


We don't know the numerical values of Incinerate's nerf yet, so at this point is all speculation. However when GGG wants to force something out of the meta, they have no remorse in dual-nerfing a gem to the ground like Elemental Proliferation (less multiplier and massive nerf to the radius).

The statement in the development manifesto about reducing the more multiplier per stage AND nerfing the base damage hints towards exactly that, a dual-nerf to damage that will completely cripple the build, since it might not be enough damage to even sustain the ES pool, and then everything falls apart.

Again, its all speculation so we will have to wait and see, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Editado por útlima vez por yotmato en 7 dic. 2015 23:33:35

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