Corrupted Blood Broken as Sh*t

I actually died to a CB enemy today. I was fighting Guardian of the Mound, and he was in the middle of a HUGE pack of rock/lava golems, goat men/shamen, rock spitters and flame sentinels. Suddenly, I was dead. Happened twice even... I hadn't seen the stacks in the mess, but yeah, in between all that shit was a CB rare. First time he got me, he probably was offscreen. Second time, I just caught a glimpse before the resurrect button. I had punched my staunching flask, but I was full up on stacks already :D So I had to go the other way around the pack, finish the CB, and then that Storm Herald motherpuncher.

I will now proceed to complain over my own lack of fortitude.

"Imagining GGG as a cranky hormonal pregnant woman suddenly explains a lot." - CliveHowlitzer
I am honestly curious, when people are saying they died instantly to Corrupted Blood, how many stacks are they getting? 10, 20, 30+ ?
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ancalagon3000 escribió:
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yotmato escribió:
Lost my level 92 incinerator in beyond to 100% extra dmg as lightning plateau.

I was shiftcasting as per usual, with the brain semi afk, when a wild rare CB bear appears in edge of the screen, obviously i get 20 stacks instantly but since i leech so much i dont even notice until the mob is dead, the degen was so fast that i panicked, i was still holding shift when the rare died, and in panick i hit the TAB button, and im playing in steam, as you know this brings out the steam overlay, while im degening in game, before i could shift+TAB again, i was dead, i chuckled cause i knew i was eventually gonna die like that, not necesarily to steam overlay, but to a CB mob

Incinerator just gets too boring to pay attention 100% of the time for that damn CB rare that may screw you up

So advice for new incinerators in Beyond/HC.

1. If you play in steam, rebind the shift+TAB overlay keybind, just ... do it
2. Dont go shiftcasting AFK in extra dmg maps even if they are faceroll, theres just that slime chance that CB rare will pop and screw you over.
3. If you play for long periods of time, CB rares WILL catch you offguard, you might think "oh this guy is retarded you just have to pay attention", but when you chain 20 maps without seeing one, facetanking even the hardest beyond bosses in level 78 maps, without ever dying before, because ur in HC league. TRUST. ME. Those fuckers will give you a heart attack, cause is litearlly the only thing that deals any significant dmg to you, and since you're shiftcasting everything, you CANT check rare mods, unless you want to cut your clear speed in half.
4. Pay attention to your debuffs in extra dmg maps, specially extra elemental dmg ones.
5. Pay extra attention to your debuffs in extra dmg maps, specially extra elemental dmg ones.

Don't listen to the L2P comments, CB is the bane and only source of heart attacks for an incinerator, at least a properly built one.

Peace.


Your fault for not checking the rare's mods. You were not paying attention, you allude to this many times throughout your paragraph. Extra ele has no effect on CB. Its not hard to press panicked / seething / staunching flask, you gotta do it once and then kill the CB rare with another skill. CB doesnt kill you in 0.5 secs. Stop blaming the game design. Tired of CB, reflect, lightning thorns QQ

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you guys are missing my point, for example why should a heavy life regen / leech 2H character with 1 attack per second be safer vs corrupting blood than a CI witch using GMP freeze pulse? why isn't it made equally difficult for all builds, like for example "when you hit a mob with corrupting blood, you take a set amount of bleed damage for 3 seconds. Hitting the mob again resets the duration"


I refuse to believe I just read this


You completely missed the point of my post, i was warning HC incinerators of wahts gonna happen to you, cause it is, you will play a lot of maps and your attention will drop at certain points, it just happens, because we are fucking humans, i'm not an automated script, i didn't say it wasnt my fault, you are just stirring up shit for no reason, and being condescending when you probably never played an incinerator before, which is really fucking annoying to be honest.

EDIT: extra ele dmg in maps does affect CB degen, i'm gonna take my experience in countless maps over the opinion of some random nobody no offense.

EDIT 2: All the information you need about CB: http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2b6czx/psa_corrupting_blood/ So you can inform yourself before making ignorant comments. I don't care if CB is good design or not, i just deal with it and warn other incinerators, that if you're playing damage mods map, be extra careful or you will die, i don't know if you ever experienced a extra ele dmg + substantial physical dmg increase rare, throw in a hexfont rare cursing you with vulnerability and you're fucking done in less than a blink when you stop leeching.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Editado por útlima vez por yotmato#4991 en 22 sept. 2014 16:27:54
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Askers escribió:
I am honestly curious, when people are saying they died instantly to Corrupted Blood, how many stacks are they getting? 10, 20, 30+ ?


20 Stacks is the maximum, as an incinerator you are usually hitting a pack and its hard to see mobs or rares sometimes, so if you play as incinerator, you have to expect to be instantly 20 stacked against any CB rare, and be ready to pot as soon as the mob dies, or you die yourself, basically, if the map is easy and has no damage mods, then CB doesnt do much dmg even at full stacks, the problem is when the game stacks damage increases in the mobs (map mods, rare mods, other mobs near him, totems, etc), thats when CB gets nasty as hell.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Editado por útlima vez por yotmato#4991 en 22 sept. 2014 16:29:36
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CB is garbage design, I agree with OP

Why are you trying to punish high hit-rate builds?

Why are you trying to punish builds that don't have heavy life recovery / regen / leech?

Not everybody can nuke down a corrupting blood mob in 2 seconds and then pot it off

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ancalagon3000 escribió:
you know, a rare is easy to spot since they added bright colors to champs.

worst case scenario, skip it. But how hard is it to press a potion? srsly ....

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Ludvator escribió:
why are there mobs in game that want to kill you? terrible design..



you guys are missing my point, for example why should a heavy life regen / leech 2H character with 1 attack per second be safer vs corrupting blood than a CI witch using GMP freeze pulse? why isn't it made equally difficult for all builds, like for example "when you hit a mob with corrupting blood, you take a set amount of bleed damage for 3 seconds. Hitting the mob again resets the duration"
The 1 att/s guy may be vulnerable to reflect, and you know from your archer what it means and how it cannot even be countered if the damage is too high ;) (unless EC/IC setups). CB at least can be countered with a flask and proper reflexes.
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yotmato escribió:
You completely missed the point of my post, i was warning HC incinerators of wahts gonna happen to you, cause it is, you will play a lot of maps and your attention will drop at certain points, it just happens, because we are fucking humans, i'm not an automated script, i didn't say it wasnt my fault, you are just stirring up shit for no reason, and being condescending when you probably never played an incinerator before, which is really fucking annoying to be honest.

EDIT: extra ele dmg in maps does affect CB degen, i'm gonna take my experience in countless maps over the opinion of some random nobody no offense.

EDIT 2: All the information you need about CB: http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2b6czx/psa_corrupting_blood/ So you can inform yourself before making ignorant comments. I don't care if CB is good design or not, i just deal with it and warn other incinerators, that if you're playing damage mods map, be extra careful or you will die, i don't know if you ever experienced a extra ele dmg + substantial physical dmg increase rare, throw in a hexfont rare cursing you with vulnerability and you're fucking done in less than a blink when you stop leeching.


Extra ele has no effect on CB... it is a physical degen. And IC works now. If you are shocked or whatever, it is because he crit you with physical dmg and added element before the puncture is applied. The puncture is based off the initial hit's physical dmg. The CB gets extra dmg from vuln (because its a dot) and physical / general dmg increases.

Yes we are humans our attention drops and shit happens. That goes for LT, reflect, etc too. But thats probably because the game is telling you you have been on for too long and its time to go to sleep or do something else. CB can be easily countered, I am not sure why you think you need to warn anyone of something that is widely known since 2 leagues ago. It is nothing new, IC and staunching flasks and hovering mouse over rare >>>>>>>>>
The only corrupted blood that wrecked me without beign my fault was the atziri trio.
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Why do you think they changed the chaos damage over time map mod to desecrated ground? Because it was out of control for hybrid characters. The same applies with corrupting blood to low recovery + high attack / cast speed builds. It really is out of control

No its not. You are just bad at the game. I have squishy (zero armor), fast hitting (GMP tornado shot), NO RECOVERY character (0 life leech,), and I have ZERO problems with corrupting blood. I'm only healing with flasks. Stop arguing that game is "out of control" because you can't play it properly. I can, that means you can too. Learn it, and stop trying to convince anyone that your build should have no weaknesses.

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Why is "No regen" map mod is only hard for regen based characters?! GGG, please, make it equally hard for everyone!

Why does desacreted ground mod doesn't work on CI?! GGG, please, balance!

Why does... <almost every other map mod>

The list goes on. That is the whole point.
You go one build, some things are harder, some things are easier. Got it? Good :)


People can choose which map mods they do so they can ignore ones that don't fit their build, everybody will run into corrupting blood no matter what. Especially if you're chaining maps for a decent period of time, you're not going to spend time checking every single rare monster for corrupting blood. Some even come out of the ground as zombies or jump in off screen as leapers, and in beyond, they can come up in a beyond pack, which means every player WILL hit into one, and with the builds I was reffering to, they should have more than a sliver of a second to master their 1 flask button


As above, I have zero problem while dealing with them, it is you doing something terribly wrong.

Next up you write that we "haven't experienced how crazy it is". I did, I died to it few times. I started thinking, changed my build a little, fixed some shit, and now I have zero problems with it. Again: it is not CB that is broken - it is your play style/skill. Get over it already, and start thinking what you are doing wrong.

Ps. Chaos damage/second was changed because it denied your shield regen because you were taking damage all the time. It was changed because THERE WAS NO COUNTER-PLAY TO IT. There is one now - don't stand in the freakin desecrated ground. CB has a counter mechanic - bloody flasks. ;___;

CB isn't even close to how broken Storm Herald is for melee characters. But you don't care about Storm Herald, because the build you play can deal with it, right? ;-)
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Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
Why is storm herald broken? Get some resists, use a fricking pot, done !


Is this game really that hard for people that they can't figure this shit out after dying to something once ?
I have never died due to corrupted blood. I hate to pull this card but: Learn to play... -.-

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