ZiggyD's Etheral Knives Mana Shield Scion/Shadow Build Guide - Hardcore (Updated for 1.1)

Anyone have a clue if there is updated build somewhere? Im desperate. Old skill tree isn't showing anymore. Thanks!!

How about starting to use your own brain guys?
Pick iron reflexes, mind over matter and eldritch battery. HP/Mana nodes, manaregen, engergyshield, castspeed and spelldamage and thats it.

came up with this
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37CCEAelAuNJsiycVa5Eq4-mLR9tGVcrB2NzU8BUeQMI9DGIwfOCHtsLoqN_xiepWm0kPKdcSVERlnC72RMvbxzc8XaTJ9xXHpSsP7QMRnHhiB2qgwnqujyOV8ko-uvueqqa4EWduJMMfRB_pwidrhpsGYUkqjbp42r60hcvZOdV1oCkJLCG0W-eykrDOlYtrH8ZhqxH6ywqTRUgLOndDVuvTioppRjbdPGFMvzFZ6CHdkp9892btRmK-wn22hqPLYOXBsSi

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namthan95 escribió:

came up with this
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37CCEAelAuNJsiycVa5Eq4-mLR9tGVcrB2NzU8BUeQMI9DGIwfOCHtsLoqN_xiepWm0kPKdcSVERlnC72RMvbxzc8XaTJ9xXHpSsP7QMRnHhiB2qgwnqujyOV8ko-uvueqqa4EWduJMMfRB_pwidrhpsGYUkqjbp42r60hcvZOdV1oCkJLCG0W-eykrDOlYtrH8ZhqxH6ywqTRUgLOndDVuvTioppRjbdPGFMvzFZ6CHdkp9892btRmK-wn22hqPLYOXBsSi

I am playing with this exact same build. Although now I figured the shadow wud be best starting point. Also, i'd say u take the 3 int nodes while going towards EB rather than going through the entire spell node/cast speed cluster. Lvl 80+ u can respec them if u want, but still getting more life/mana wud be better than 30% spell dmg.

This tree :

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBEZYVIBXnFy8Y2xmFGYYZihpsGo8c3B2qHpQkPCSqJLAmlSepKPoppSpNLOktRy2DL2826TyOQ2NFnUZxSVFKfU4qUEJVS1XGVdZWLVfJWPVabVuvZOdmnmegbBZte2-ecLtxTXOzdPF6qn_GgKSCHoLHgwmD24UyhtGHdohCjDaPRpMnlwaaz5rgm7Wdrp3EpwinXKw_rEesf7QMtzG4k8HFwzrEospKznHPZdDQ1U_ZE9sL3FfdDd534Yjjauq66yzr7vBr89322vno-tL7CfxL_MU=

The new tree

I did this last night and its pretty much just the same as the old

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABBLMIZwx9EH8RlhRNFSAW8xcvGDwY2xo4HNwdFB2qHpQhwyY8KPoppSpNLOktqC9vL50xnjWSNuk62DrhPydBh0NjRnFKfUrITdhN404qVcZV1lfhWPVaUluvZOdmnmegbqpwu3FNdPF_xoCkgW-CHoLHgwmFMod2jHaPRpBVkNaTJ5M6ms-bXZ3EnjyiAKKjplenCKeEqJqsP7GQtAy18rcxtz631riTvSfAGsHzxp7PZdDQ2RPa3dsL21ncV90N4Yjjauvu7DjyRfKX-WX56PrS_MX-Cv6P

cleary respec out of the proj. dmg ones at the start when you can and I play soft core so i may even go up the left side of the HP wheel and save about 5 points to be put in dmg

if this helps anyone let me know

can someone please verify which one will give more dps - 4% cast speed from Alira or 18% physical dmg from Oak.

Cast speed seems to add a ton of dps to EK and 18% physical dmg will add only around 6% fire dmg and 6% cold dmg from added fire support and hatred.

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Mirek2010 escribió:

How about starting to use your own brain guys?
Pick iron reflexes, mind over matter and eldritch battery. HP/Mana nodes, manaregen, engergyshield, castspeed and spelldamage and thats it.

Yep, Easy to rebuild the spec, this is as sound advice as any. Rebuilding the spec yourself shouldn't be that challenging.

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Virtuous_Sphinx escribió:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB3nfVTxXn8Gtzs_-TbWxTNZu1wzrKShmGKk0VICzp3Q1br04qKaUY23TxhTIeGtIZ1tEqW4w2VUtte-d0YeImlYfb62OZmrb3HNyTJ9xXHpSsP3_GoqPB84Ie2wuzDiHAPydKyG6qtfI1kv4Ktz5Bh_notAzqujyOV8ko-qxH6yyI8YLHES_e9ujWmyYyAbIZz3ph63pT6-56qprgRZ0Pqw==


Just a quick and dirty thought experiment of what starting this kind of build as a Shadow might look like. Very very rough but I'd like to know if I'm even close to the right track? There's a lot of useful nodes very close to the basic path sketched out, but I'm used to the Scion version so there's going to be a lot of min-maxing as Shadow to get it to come out just right.

Thoughts/suggestions?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBD6sRLxGWFSAV5xcvGNsZhRmGGYoabBqPHNwdqh4aHpQgnCHAJKomlSj6KaUqTSpbLKYs6S9vMZ40CjWSNuk3ZjrhPI4_J0GHRZ1GcUrITDJOKlFMUzVVS1XWV8lbr2HiZOdtbG17bqpwu3OzdPF6qn_GgKSCHoLHhTKH24jxjDaQ1pMnmZqa4Ju1na6io6ZXpwisP6xHsw60DLXytve3PriTwfPDOspK0hnVT9bR2RPbC9xX3Q3ed-GI4oDjaud06rrrLOtj6-7wa_JF9tr56PrS-wn-Cv-T

Possible end-game style. The aura nodes are pretty important, so I wound my way to those. I sacrificed some of the side groups that you had grabbed, like the Revenge of the Hunted evasion and life wheel on the right side. Overall, I think my changes make it more end-game viable, as a lot of your damage and survivability comes from running multiple auras.

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