trading in this game sucks, add a marketplace

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emtwo escribió:

...the idea was to make it so that people could offer currency for an item and others could accept through forums without either of them having to be online...

I for one would be happy if it took place via a web browser on my desktop where I could search and trade using proper windows and cursors vs. whatever GUI pane that GGG could come up with. This is not a knock against GGG, but any developer would be hard-pressed to create an interface more efficient or user-friendly than a web browser.

emtwo, do you really want a web-browser to be a part of the game? I really hope that GGG does not want this to be so... Web-browser trading usually leads to increased password-stealing and item-loss, not to mention a reduction in people actually playing the game.

How is it a better interface to have to open a web-brower, travel to a website, login to the website, shop for items, exchange items/currency 'online' through the www, then launch PoE, login AGAIN, select character, and finally attempt to use the item(s) you traded for. Wtf. I suppose many people don't mind having a browser open along with the PoE game client; but if you are going to do this, why not just be able to trade within the game client to begin with?

I guess the idea is to be able to trade completely outside of the game, which would be a nice option to have, but definitely not necessary. Trading using a web-browser should only be secondary to in-game trading, imo.

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Perfect_Black escribió:

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emtwo escribió:

...the idea was to make it so that people could offer currency for an item and others could accept through forums without either of them having to be online...

I for one would be happy if it took place via a web browser on my desktop where I could search and trade using proper windows and cursors vs. whatever GUI pane that GGG could come up with. This is not a knock against GGG, but any developer would be hard-pressed to create an interface more efficient or user-friendly than a web browser.

emtwo, do you really want a web-browser to be a part of the game? I really hope that GGG does not want this to be so... Web-browser trading usually leads to increased password-stealing and item-loss, not to mention a reduction in people actually playing the game.

How is it a better interface to have to open a web-brower, travel to a website, login to the website, shop for items, exchange items/currency 'online' through the www, then launch PoE, login AGAIN, select character, and finally attempt to use the item(s) you traded for. Wtf. I suppose many people don't mind having a browser open along with the PoE game client; but if you are going to do this, why not just be able to trade within the game client to begin with?

I guess the idea is to be able to trade completely outside of the game, which would be a nice option to have, but definitely not necessary. Trading using a web-browser should only be secondary to in-game trading, imo.

Exactly this. If not secondary to in-game trading, just do away with outside-trading via third-party sources and trade forums entirely when (eventually and hopefully) an efficient Trade System is implemented into PoE.

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Perfect_Black escribió:

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emtwo escribió:

...the idea was to make it so that people could offer currency for an item and others could accept through forums without either of them having to be online...

I for one would be happy if it took place via a web browser on my desktop where I could search and trade using proper windows and cursors vs. whatever GUI pane that GGG could come up with. This is not a knock against GGG, but any developer would be hard-pressed to create an interface more efficient or user-friendly than a web browser.

emtwo, do you really want a web-browser to be a part of the game? I really hope that GGG does not want this to be so... Web-browser trading usually leads to increased password-stealing and item-loss, not to mention a reduction in people actually playing the game.

How is it a better interface to have to open a web-brower, travel to a website, login to the website, shop for items, exchange items/currency 'online' through the www, then launch PoE, login AGAIN, select character, and finally attempt to use the item(s) you traded for. Wtf. I suppose many people don't mind having a browser open along with the PoE game client; but if you are going to do this, why not just be able to trade within the game client to begin with?

I guess the idea is to be able to trade completely outside of the game, which would be a nice option to have, but definitely not necessary. Trading using a web-browser should only be secondary to in-game trading, imo.

Do you disable cookies or something? Open up web-browser, click book mark to PoE forums, start trading. Why doesit need to be more complex than that?

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emtwo escribió:

Do you disable cookies or something? Open up web-browser, click book mark to PoE forums, start trading. Why doesit need to be more complex than that?

Why should Path of Exile require a Web Browser for full functionality? Break the forum-trade cycle, lobby for a proper in-game trading system, and don't let over-powered exploiters or 3rd-party traders infringe on your experiences in Wraeclast (also don't befriend them or trade with them, exile them from your consciousness).

And yes, I disable cookies.

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emtwo escribió:

I might have to dig and find the post, but I'm pretty sure the idea was to make it so that people could offer currency for an item and others could accept through forums without either of them having to be online. This would vastly decrease the time investment involved with trading.

thats exactly what i want

spaming your shit in all 12 trade chanels and wasting so much time looking for buyers is just not fun

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Perfect_Black escribió:

Why should Path of Exile require a Web Browser for full functionality? Break the forum-trade cycle, lobby for a proper in-game trading system, and don't let over-powered exploiters or 3rd-party traders infringe on your experiences in Wraeclast (also don't befriend them or trade with them, exile them from your consciousness).

And yes, I disable cookies.

Let's be perfectly honest with ourselves. Any in-game trading system that GGG creates will be clunky and inefficient compared to what you can get with a web-browser.

It would be like trying to implement an in-game Wiki or an in-game Twitch player. Whatever they come up with, it won't have the functionality or efficiency of simply going to the wiki or going to twitch or going to the trading forums.

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emtwo escribió:

Spoiler

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Perfect_Black escribió:

Why should Path of Exile require a Web Browser for full functionality? Break the forum-trade cycle, lobby for a proper in-game trading system, and don't let over-powered exploiters or 3rd-party traders infringe on your experiences in Wraeclast (also don't befriend them or trade with them, exile them from your consciousness).

And yes, I disable cookies.

Let's be perfectly honest with ourselves. Any in-game trading system that GGG creates will be clunky and inefficient compared to what you can get with a web-browser.

It would be like trying to implement an in-game Wiki or an in-game Twitch player. Whatever they come up with, it won't have the functionality or efficiency of simply going to the wiki or going to twitch or going to the trading forums.

Do you have that little faith in GGG? Wtf.

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Perfect_Black escribió:

Do you have that little faith in GGG? Wtf.

If they could create a more efficient browser, they'd be making billions of dollars from that instead of creating PoE.

It's not that I don't have faith in them, it's that the task is simply beyond the capacity of a company their size.

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emtwo escribió:

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Perfect_Black escribió:

Do you have that little faith in GGG? Wtf.

If they could create a more efficient browser, they'd be making billions of dollars from that instead of creating PoE.

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Perfect_Black escribió:

Relevance?

It's not that I don't have faith in them, it's that the task is simply beyond the capacity of a company their size.

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Perfect_Black escribió:

I firmly disagree with you. Look at what GGG has created thus far. You don't think that they could incrementally chip away at a custom in-game trading system? Are you kidding me? I think the issue is more of, is it worth the effort to implement? Does GGG really care whether or not players have a convenient way to trade in-game? Path of least resistance is browser-based forum trading, and I may or may not engage in it on principle.

You guys make this out to be the Laws of Physics. There is no denying (I have not seen good reason(s) yet on how not) that my idea is close to the very best it's going to get for fast gratification, efficiency, etc. between players trading between players in PoE.

Consult my very first post on the first page, go to the link, read it, then get back with me.

PoE does not need an item filter system so they can see the cheapest prices on items. Let's not kid ourselves in that we all know such a feature is used mainly for that very thing.

Do you know what this kind of system does in the long-run? It creates a lowball mindset in trade in that when traders purposely lowball items, be it they BUY or SELL them, someone else is going to try and compete with that lowball. Before you know it, the value of items will go down!

PoE's current bartering system between players, combined with my idea = the most legit trade system you're going to get in almost any game, including but not limited to, PoE.

P.S. It's not because game companies cannot add an awesome filtration system like you guys speak of on these sites, it's because they're smart and know it's not a good system for the above reasons.

Look at Diablo III's Auction House. It's a fail beached whale. Do you know why? Because it's lowballers competing against other lowballers in trade.