[3.24] Ice Shot / Lightning Arrow Deadeye (Or Tornado Shot) - 400%+ MS, League Start Viable!

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ultratiem escribió:

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Make sure your main skill's mana cost is high enough to trigger your manaforge setup every so often (around 5 to 15 mana cost on your main skill is likely ideal)

Sorry this is kinda wrong and not really how manaforged works. Also, MF doesn't care about its own cost, just the cost of the initial trigger skill.

With all that said, the ideal cost is is 1 for your skill and 0 for anything linked to MF. This is achievable with a total of -20 mana cost. All you need is one inherently rolled Heist ring and another benchrafted at -7 (-8 on catalysts).

A 6L: Inspiration (no quality) > Critical Chance > Critical DMG > Ele DMG > M Archer > TS at -20 mana cost has a cost of 1 mana (and MF links 0). This will trigger MF on every hit (which makes the whole 300% text really deceptive).

It's also of note the trigger skill has to cost something (this strangely becomes annoying swapping gems as they may have different costs).

Someone posts a really good primer on reddit about MF and the comments had even more findings, definitely worth a search.

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rattek escribió:

Why we getting pierce and not Chain?


I would think chaining would be way better then Piercing no? anyone explain?

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yankuch escribió:

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rattek escribió:

Why we getting pierce and not Chain?


I would think chaining would be way better then Piercing no? anyone explain?

Chain feels better but has much higher opportunity cost (1 ascendancy for chain vs 3 passive points for pierce)

you would rather use the ascendancy point on damage early (focal point) and when you can make up the damage through itemization you refund focal point and pierce in favor of ricochet.

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NerdsAreGood escribió:

Im not stunning and dont understand why mu characters name is TurtleTom

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rattek escribió:

what points are we refunding I'm confused.

this is my char atm

https://pobb.in/IDksI1fZliZ3

Is the Chain only for the big budget investment? the 50-300div build? i see they change the build around for the end game but that cost of that is hella div and im a solo pleb who only has like 9-10 div to my name atm after my last batch of upgrades.