[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

So, is this the end for whispering ice? The main players have all retired, apparently.

Regarding my stormblast mine levelling complaints I made waaaay earlier in this thread, I discovered just ONE WEEK ago that you can put detonate on your left mouse (movement) button. Wtf. How am I supposed to know I can do that? With LMB detonate, mines are much easier to play. (Yes, I used -D- for detonate, and had to spam mines, then press D, then move -- one key too many for ease of use.)

It looks like we should go back to arctic armour after the flesh and stone nerf.

Maybe we'll get a surprise in 3.15 and GGG will allow 10 stacks of icestorm after rewriting their rendering engine twice.
Editado por útlima vez por Graiaule en 12 jul. 2021 17:10:22
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Graiaule escribió:
So, is this the end for whispering ice? The main players have all retired, apparently.

Regarding my stormblast mine levelling complaints I made waaaay earlier in this thread, I discovered just ONE WEEK ago that you can put detonate on your left mouse (movement) button. Wtf. How am I supposed to know I can do that? With LMB detonate, mines are much easier to play. (Yes, I used -D- for detonate, and had to spam mines, then press D, then move -- one key too many for ease of use.)

It looks like we should go back to arctic armour after the flesh and stone nerf.

Maybe we'll get a surprise in 3.15 and GGG will allow 10 stacks of icestorm after rewriting their rendering engine twice.


Kelvynn got fed up with this league bullshit (streamers queueu prio and servers issues) and hasnt logged in since, maybe new league will bring him back

as for rest of "main players" i think ulitmatum league was weak in terms of novelty its just another template league, so maybe everyone sat this one on the bench (like i did)
Editado por útlima vez por adambog en 13 jul. 2021 4:30:11
We'll see. I have always enjoyed Kelvynn's forum posts and I hope he returns, even if only to bitch at GGG.

I added arctic armor to my WI witch on standard, and ran a few things to see how it felt. Running with 10.8k ES, ~2500 int, 3 cold to the core jewels, and ES watcher's eye.

1. Elder was easy.
2. Simulacrum was easy, though I did get killed at level 20 when the monster density got a bit too high.
3. Profane bloom is awesome and really not to be missed.

That was always the issue with the build. At the very top end, when doing the really challenging bosses, I would always die and never quite be able to hit the next level up. Yes, I could grind stuff safely and level up, but what's the fun in that?

It'd be interesting to see how close to stun immunity you can get the witch version, because it does seem that the stuns are the most common cause of death.
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Graiaule escribió:
We'll see. I have always enjoyed Kelvynn's forum posts and I hope he returns, even if only to bitch at GGG.

I added arctic armor to my WI witch on standard, and ran a few things to see how it felt. Running with 10.8k ES, ~2500 int, 3 cold to the core jewels, and ES watcher's eye.

1. Elder was easy.
2. Simulacrum was easy, though I did get killed at level 20 when the monster density got a bit too high.
3. Profane bloom is awesome and really not to be missed.

That was always the issue with the build. At the very top end, when doing the really challenging bosses, I would always die and never quite be able to hit the next level up. Yes, I could grind stuff safely and level up, but what's the fun in that?

It'd be interesting to see how close to stun immunity you can get the witch version, because it does seem that the stuns are the most common cause of death.


It is always quiet this late into a league.

You can get 100% stun immunity as witch. You need Lucidity, normally annointed so you gonna need to use Stampede. Unwavering Focus, from a Megalomaniac. And 2 jewels with 10% chance to avoid being stunned as implict mod from seed crafting. Downside for this is that you need 6link staff or Inspiration will not work. And that may cause lower uptime of Elemental Overload as you need to link Controlled Destruction to Cyclone.

I find 80% or even 40% enough if you are willing to use Brine King pantheon. Your experience may vary.
Hey Cjin good to see you're still around.

I had no idea there was a stun avoidance affix on abyss jewels. I can get up to 20% per jewel, so 2 of them would suffice to get 80% without having to 6L the staff.

I'm not seeing the harvest craft for stun -- do you know where it is on craftofexile.com?
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Graiaule escribió:
Hey Cjin good to see you're still around.

I had no idea there was a stun avoidance affix on abyss jewels. I can get up to 20% per jewel, so 2 of them would suffice to get 80% without having to 6L the staff.

I'm not seeing the harvest craft for stun -- do you know where it is on craftofexile.com?


craftofexile shows only suffixes and prefixes right? this one is an implicit that you can get from Vivid Parasites. https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Vivid_Parasite_Grain

Also it is one of 26 possible results the craft can roll so getting it is not that easy.
Hello. I should have posted this a long ago but I did just write a post on the Icestorm skill gem feedback thread. Although most of those threads look dead I think GGG actually does read them. Let's look forward to something new with our precious staff coming forward.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1329439/page/5#p24183155
Hey Lingen is alife. How wonderful. Played this league 3 builds and all sucks. Dont try the icestorm as it was last league ok but not so fun as bevore. Dont see you this league:-( And as you only have 38 challenges it seems you played not as much as in other leagues.
I played 10 % from normal league as i dont like the content AND dont like the destroyed build.
next league will see how it works. Nerving all things is a but strange, but i am shure they oversee some strange combinations, so it will go as usual. Mathil will find a build what is extremly overpowerd and all other make copie. :-)

Perhaps we can write again in game. Missed you and kel and a lot of the other longtime players.
But perhaps poe is going a way i cant go with. We will see.
Hoping someone will post their 3.15 PoB for this when the patch hits if the OP doesn't update because I'm enjoying this build a lot. Cleared Uber lab on my first try!
Looks like this will be one of the few builds that won't be as impacted by the nerf. Supports, while obviously giving more DPS, aren't as significant, most of our damage boosts comes from passives and the large amount of intelligence. We also only use 4 supports effectively due to CWC, and even then, Energy leech support didn't that much damage.

Also, with the ridiculous amount of int we get, we have a buttload of mana. We're looking at Icestorm CWC cost to be ~160 mana per second. Passively we should be regenerating just about 200 mana per second.

So basically all the changes and nerfs shouldn't affect this build that much. Maybe inspiration will have to be looked into, as we are now spending mana quite a bit of mana. Overall I am expecting a nerf in the range of the 10% or so. We'll still be tanky as fuck.

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