[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Tsplodey escribió:
Swapped Herald of Ice to Hatred tonight. Was good until I hit the low-mana performance bug. That's off the table til its fixed.


Whats the bug ?
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Akisailent escribió:
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Hemzokuken escribió:
Ok so love your idea of zealotry and can get my dps up to 80k with my build on icestorm tooltip in current gear....but I think my dps was fine at 68k so am going to ditch zealotry.

I want to make this as Tanky as possible so I am going to try and make the following auras work:

Hatred
Arctic armour (have 30% mana reserve reduction enchant on helm)
Flesh and stone
Aspect of the spider
Discipline

So far I have 2 X 1% mana reserve reduction implicits and level 4 enlighten. So will put high reserve ones in helm and ditch righteous fire.

Not sure where I can put the last aura unless I ditch a 7% int implicit ring for an unset ring and slap it in there.

What does everyone think of this? Is it silly?
Right now I can face tank so much content so feel with aspect of the spider + arctic armour added....will be amazing.

Definitely not dropping frost shield linked with immortal call and cwdt + frost bomb. It's amazing!


But we cyclone all the time, so you dont get damage reduction from arctic armor, unless you cyclne a bit then stand still and so on ... Im investing so much on dps bcs I want to delete endgame bosses like Sirius8, Aul, Uber elder etc, so i dont have to stay for too long dpsing them


Doesn't arctic armor work if you cyclone on the spot? Thought that was counted as stationary?

You're probably right though...just wanted to make use of my helm enchant haha. Wish I had hatred enchant!

Ok so what else can we do?

I have theorycrafted this.....what do you think? :P

Hatred (15% helm enchant)
Zealotry
Discipline
LVL 4 enlighten with those 3

Aspect of the spider
Flesh and stone in a ring

30% mana reserve reduce passives on tree
2 X jewels with 1% reduced mana reserve implicit

BOOM we have 5 auras....we are tanky as fk and we do a shit tonne of dps all while being at 99% mana reserved.


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Akisailent escribió:
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phantom_god escribió:


In fact if you look, there are very few ways of getting MORE spell/cold/ele damage from somehwere, while there are many passives to get INCREASED damage. Thats why its worth reserving 50% mana for hatred and/or zealotry, and also multiplicative damagelike this scales much better with your base IC damage, so you get more int, and then MORE spell damage scalles even better


worth to invest an exlt into the theard of hope for ur setup?



If you have enough leach elsewhere and need point somewhere else than yes, it frees a lot of points to use


tbh i am missing a lot of leech cus i did something with the tree so i missed the leech in the right side

but if i do that i can get 2 jewel sockets to transfer str/dex to int
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Akisailent escribió:
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Tsplodey escribió:
Swapped Herald of Ice to Hatred tonight. Was good until I hit the low-mana performance bug. That's off the table til its fixed.


Whats the bug ?


https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/j2w0x8/near_100_mana_reservation_causes_hugely_unstable/
On top of everything I just wrote....would we be better off ditching zealotry altogether and the 15% spelldamage it provides for a 4th large cluster using 2 points to get to cold to the core....which is more dps than zealotry on its own?
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Hemzokuken escribió:
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Akisailent escribió:
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Hemzokuken escribió:
Ok so love your idea of zealotry and can get my dps up to 80k with my build on icestorm tooltip in current gear....but I think my dps was fine at 68k so am going to ditch zealotry.

I want to make this as Tanky as possible so I am going to try and make the following auras work:

Hatred
Arctic armour (have 30% mana reserve reduction enchant on helm)
Flesh and stone
Aspect of the spider
Discipline

So far I have 2 X 1% mana reserve reduction implicits and level 4 enlighten. So will put high reserve ones in helm and ditch righteous fire.

Not sure where I can put the last aura unless I ditch a 7% int implicit ring for an unset ring and slap it in there.

What does everyone think of this? Is it silly?
Right now I can face tank so much content so feel with aspect of the spider + arctic armour added....will be amazing.

Definitely not dropping frost shield linked with immortal call and cwdt + frost bomb. It's amazing!


But we cyclone all the time, so you dont get damage reduction from arctic armor, unless you cyclne a bit then stand still and so on ... Im investing so much on dps bcs I want to delete endgame bosses like Sirius8, Aul, Uber elder etc, so i dont have to stay for too long dpsing them


Doesn't arctic armor work if you cyclone on the spot? Thought that was counted as stationary?

You're probably right though...just wanted to make use of my helm enchant haha. Wish I had hatred enchant!

Ok so what else can we do?

I have theorycrafted this.....what do you think? :P

Hatred (15% helm enchant)
Zealotry
Discipline
LVL 4 enlighten with those 3

Aspect of the spider
Flesh and stone in a ring

30% mana reserve reduce passives on tree
2 X jewels with 1% reduced mana reserve implicit

BOOM we have 5 auras....we are tanky as fk and we do a shit tonne of dps all while being at 99% mana reserved.




Besides that im also using 30% discipline reduced mana reservation from cluster jewel notable. Tbh as said if i also take Sovereignty (need 4 passive points) i can also use flesh ans stone, so all the auras you said, but I prefer spendingh those 4 points elsewhere, can live without flesh and stone
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Hemzokuken escribió:
On top of everything I just wrote....would we be better off ditching zealotry altogether and the 15% spelldamage it provides for a 4th large cluster using 2 points to get to cold to the core....which is more dps than zealotry on its own?


Just checked and no, cold to the core alone is less damage than 15% from zealotry. Also we are using the last spot on the tree for brute force, so if you do this, first you get less dps as i said, second you also lose +64 to intelligence. I mean zealotry is something i decided to squize in for more dps, you can still just use flesh and stone and dont bother with all the fuse for reduced mana reservation
Editado por útlima vez por Akisailent en 1 oct. 2020 10:39:40
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Akisailent escribió:

But we cyclone all the time, so you dont get damage reduction from arctic armor, unless you cyclne a bit then stand still and so on ... Im investing so much on dps bcs I want to delete endgame bosses like Sirius8, Aul, Uber elder etc, so i dont have to stay for too long dpsing them


If you cyclone in place you still get the bonus... If you are using Arctic armor, try to get the alternate quality that freezes enemies when they hit you, that looks stupid amazing and broken.
Thanks man...good to have someone to bounce ideas off.

I wonder why zealotry isn't mentioned on page 1 at all?

What if we got 4 large clusters with cold to the core instead of the 64 int? Only spending 3 points on each large other than the split personalities one??
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Hemzokuken escribió:
Thanks man...good to have someone to bounce ideas off.

I wonder why zealotry isn't mentioned on page 1 at all?

What if we got 4 large clusters with cold to the core instead of the 64 int? Only spending 3 points on each large other than the split personalities one??


You could do it, but we need sockets to get more int, so basicly you trading cold to the core + another notable for a lot of flat int from passive, which is bad for us as we scale pretty much everything from int. Zealotry is not mentioned bcs hatred is already mentioned, to get both + discpline you already need to min max and do some shenanigans
Editado por útlima vez por Akisailent en 1 oct. 2020 11:03:32

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