An interesting read I found on reddit : Why people who play D3 prefer it over PoE

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ffogell escribió:

In all honesty i stopped playing D3 because all i did was kill to get drop and without the drop it gets boring fast especially endgame.

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ffogell escribió:

The min-maxing endgame of your character can be as challenging as PoE but d3 really lack a sens of progression, if it does not drop you get nowhere which isnt true in PoE.

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iHaku escribió:

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ffogell escribió:

In all honesty i stopped playing D3 because all i did was kill to get drop and without the drop it gets boring fast especially endgame.

oh so they stop dropping loot at some point? didnt noticed in my 1k+ or so D3 hours.

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ffogell escribió:

The min-maxing endgame of your character can be as challenging as PoE but d3 really lack a sens of progression, if it does not drop you get nowhere which isnt true in PoE.

wat. minmaxing in poe is way harder.
give me one example of minmaxing in D3. its just about obvious choices besides the ring problem.

in D3 every item will eventually drop. and with the new patch even the rare ones are quite common in comparison to before. just the ancient versions of lets say WH are really rare. but you dont need ancient items anyway. ever

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iHaku escribió:

i could say "oh man lol is so easy just brain afk play and win everything" while only playing on lowelo smurfs. this holds true for every pvp game ever

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Soepkieken escribió:

Well, for me PoE IS Diablo 3, as it is exacly what I wanted after Diablo 2, which I played for about ten years. For me Diablo 2 was all about:

- Tree and gear planning and puzzling.

- Interesting uniques with special abilities (/runewords).

- Different mechanics, forcing you to make choices (e.g. defenses: block, armour rating, passive defenses (pally slow aura, amazon evade,...), weakening curses, resistances, life,...).

- Replayability: after playing a summoner necro, a poison necro is a whole different story. It's nice to build up such characters from the beginning.

- Fixed characters so not everybody in the end changes to the most OP cookiecutter builds.

- Allows for crazy fun niche builds like a polar bear or valkyriezon.

- ...

For Diablo 3, I wanted those things as the core but even better, but PoE succeeded much better then Diablo 3 to do so:

- PoE's tree is awesome, no denial. It is the best part of the game and a milestone in gaming history. Out of Diablo 2's simple trees, this beauty was born.
If I just want to fight, there are other genres. The genre Diablo 1 started is about complexity and build puzzling and creativity, not just about smashing skulls... which is what Diablo 3 offers.

- PoE's non-legacy uniques are by far more interesting then Diablo 3's. They don't rule out good rares (I'm talking about non-legacy!) but are often build-enabling or ingenious in another way. The existence of legacy is a shame, as legacy almost literally means: "not good for game balance and hence the entire game in itself". If an item is good then it doesn't become legacy, so legacies are bad items.

- Let's take a look at PoE's defenses: energy shield or life, block/dodge and their spell versions, armour and evasion, arctic armour, regen, (instant-)leech, LoH, resistances, max resists,... . All different but usefull mechanisms. In Diablo 3 resistances and armour are universal and basically the same. While PoE forces you into choices, Diablo 3 pretty much says: just take as much as you can of everything, don't think too much: "more is better"!

- The replayability in PoE is great because of the skill system, tree and gear. Diablo 3 allows you to change your current build completely at any time because reasonably few dedication towards a certain build is required due to uncreative gear and a too flexible plain skill system.

- Yes, I too played WW Barb even if I started out throwing. But the temptation of being just better and the idea that you can change your build in an eyeblink was just too strong. I was not feeling very unique, but to be that in Diablo 3, you just need to be weak and skip the obvious winning formula's everybody uses.

I won't deny the strong points of Diablo 3:

- Graphics.

- Original boss fights. The only cases where PoE is less complex and more straightforward.

- Class distinctiveness. I really like the tree concept and the skill gem system of PoE, but it would be fun if they add something distinctive to every class apart from their looks and insignificant starting stats. A choice out of 3 class-specific keystones e.g..

But in the end I think it's obvious that whereas Diablo 2 was for the dedicted, complexity-loving creative build planner (it WAS played for 10 years by many), PoE succeeded much better then Diablo 3 to be a successor to this.

Diablo 3 is for the more casual players, younger players or players who don't like to unravel the depth of interesting game mechanics. If you want to use your brain, you play PoE. If you just want to bash demon's skulls, play Diablo 3.

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EdgeVII escribió:

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robotamen escribió:

Again?

PoE is an ARPG. Diablo 3 is a Hack and Slash with an ARPG touch.

Are totally different games.

Grim Dawn is the PoE's real competence as God of War of Diablo 3.

Say what? POE and Diablo series are all Hack n Slash.
You should learn what 'role playing game' means

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robotamen escribió:

The D3 evolution is only the D3 evolution, not the ARPG evolution, and this will not affect the pure ARPG genere or games like PoE.
Thanks.

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Check this Diablo 3 video and then talk about HnS and PoE,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FiSin6qwRU