What's your favourite type of sword?

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torturo escribió:

Ah,k. I misunderstood it.

Yeah I would never encourage or support anyone carrying/using a knife as a weapon, and I am someone that has thousands of dollars invested in my collection. Like I said earlier, I have a medical background, and a pretty strong stomach for the gruesome, but seeing the result of a karambit attack was truly horrifying/stomach turning for me. Now, I guess there are technically exceptions to "knives should never be weapons", like... if you are legitimately a military dude that has legitimately been trained to use these tools in that way... but that's 0.000001% of people right?

@Docbp87: I was mostly reacting to what I perceived as a bit of over-the-top elitism in your post. Apart from that, of course it's preferable to have high-quality tools to bad ones.

About karambits, yeah, nasty things. They leave incredibly deep cuts. Apart from the pure visual impact, of course, I don't think there's much difference between being cut to ribbons or stabbed into swiss cheese with a normal knife. Multiple stab wounds are probably even deadlier.

About knife fighting, yep, pretty much. Even an untrained 15-year-old with a spring knife can send you to St. Peter before you can say "fuc...". The huge amount of so-called knife self-defense training and self-proclaimed experts showing flashy knife disarming techniques to people always makes me cringe. So you're a knife fighting expert? Please explain why you aren't dead, incapacitated or in prison.

What if you have a big stick? Can you take a 15 years old with a knife?

I'm not asking if you should, I personally would run away either way.

If the 15 year old was an assassin and was raised as a killer no you really shouldn't.

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I_NO escribió:

If the 15 year old was an assassin and was raised as a killer no you really shouldn't.

Sh*t, I meet those all the time!

Never cross a child o.0

''Looks can be deceiving''

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I_NO escribió:

Never cross a child o.0

''Looks can be deceiving''

did anyone say meat sword yet?

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Docbp87 escribió:

I don't want to be an ass, I love this movie, but can a girl this small shoot this kind of gun like that? I've heard stories of people breaking their wrists because of recoil.

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鬼殺し escribió:

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Docbp87 escribió:

C'mon what? There are zillions of stories about idiots who thought they would try to use a knife as a weapon and ended up getting cut to ribbons themselves...

A cop friend of mine has repeatedly stated she'd rather face a gun than a knife at close quarters. I mean, she'd rather face neither, but being in DV (domestic violence) and in Australia, she's far more likely to face a knife than a gun. And I think a knife *is* much more dangerous at close quarters.

I'm not here to debate guns vs knives. Just giving another perspective, albeit second-hand.

From what I know about real-life simulations training done by cops, military and martial arts enthusiasts, the critical distance is around nine feet. That's assuming the person with the gun is ready and has a comfortable fast draw. Also, it must be taken into consideration that these simulations are done by professionals who are very well trained with their guns. If the distance is above nine feet, the person with the gun is generally considered to have an advantage. If the distance is less than nine, the knife has an advantage.

There's another problem: while people in movies immediately drop down when shot (unless it's the protagonist), in real life it's highly likely, especially for a deranged knife attacker pumped high on adrenaline, to be shot - even multiple times - and still remain mobile and dangerous for at least a few seconds. And a few seconds are an eternity for someone determined and armed with a knife.

A third point, it's quite easy to miss a shot with a gun in a high-pressure situation, especially for untrained people, while no one misses with a knife. Insert sharp end here, stabby stabby. I remember having read somewhere that more murders are done with knives than with guns, although I don't remember for which country it was. It makes sense though, the big problem with knives is that they are extremely simple to use, lethal and widely available. Particularly if the knife attacker is in a deranged mental state (which is often the case) and simply wants to stab you disregarding their own safety, it becomes a difficult and unenviable task to stop the attack without sustaining damage.

A fourth problem, in most real-life knife attacks, the victim typically doesn't even know there's a knife involved, or they don't even know they are under attack until the last second. Situations where someone is brandishing a knife at you, giving you warning and enough time to react, are rare. There are tons of cheap and accessible spring-assisted knives which can be carried concealed and drawn in a fraction of a second. If someone actually pulls out a knife at you and just threatens you with it, although it's a less than ideal situation for certain, it's good - this means they don't really want to stab you. The most dangerous and problematic attacker is the one who closes the distance and doesn't reveal the knife until the last moment.

In the end, it all boils down to having good judgement and identifying potentially dangerous individuals before the situation even arises. Avoiding places and situations where there's a likelihood of having to deal with knives is also always a plus. Everything said and done, if you do find yourself under attack by a knife, as far as I know the best idea is to find something - anything - which can be put between you and the attacker. A stick, a chair, a thrown object, your jacket wrapped around your hand, anything. The second priority is to control the arm with the knife. Try to grab it and hold on for dear life, shout for help, yell, kick, bite and pray. The flashy disarming moves are extremely unreliable for a variety of reasons unless you're a highly trained martial artist. As someone who has been in this situation (not with a knife though!), it's extremely difficult to make even a physically weaker person drop something they are holding if they really, really don't want to.

Disclaimer, I have no practical experience on the subject and this is just stuff I've heard or read by folks whose opinion I trust. Take it as you will. I've done some martial arts, I've done some play sparring, I've had a few weapons brandished at me, but I've never been under attack by someone armed - or attacked with a weapon.