Facebreaker build what is the max dps?

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Sheriff_K escribió:
Brolicious, your build intrigues me.

You'd need a Life Gain on Hit Gem in your 6-Link though, otherwise there is noway to sustain both the Cost of Frenzy AND the degen of Blood Rage.


Still, going such a YOLO Glass Cannon build, and as Melee, is a bit extreme. :P

Well, I had such a build in the past and it was perfectly viable, did lvl 72 maps and so with it (sadly my map pool wasn't better at that time), it was nowhere near as glasscannon as you think it would be :)

The cost of Frenzy should be easily mitigated by the life leech from Blood Rage and Multistrike helps immensely in the mana cost department since the cost is for 3 strikes basically. Also if Blood Rage regen is a problem you can easily take Blood Dance boots instead of Darkray Vectors, sure you would take away some attack power but you gain much survivability for it and vs low life enemies you'd get a damage boost (good vs bosses). Free 9% life regen is nothing to scoff at.
Also, for another slot of offense (ring) you'll get another nice defensive boost from Lori's Lantern. Unlucky roll on enemies means lightning based ones may deal up to 99,9% less dmg in the best case (since lightning mostly ranges from 1-xxxx dmg) and some of the worst enemies use this element. The chaos res on low life from Lori's means you also take less Blood Rage degen.
As for chest armour you could take Daresso's Defiance (wonderful for this build, gives dodge, damage reduction and Onslaught), Lightning Coil (incredible with Purity of Lightning or the new Queen of the Forest (insane evasion, life, res and a nasty movespeed buff with Jade flasks).

As you see there are many paths one can take in regards to itemization of leftover slots. The only must have items are Facebreaker, Meginord's Girdle and Daresso's Courage. Then either Bringer of Rain or Abyssus as helmet; Darkray Vectors, Blood Dance or Atziri's Step (dat spell dodge) for boots; Daresso's Defiance, Lightning Coil, Queen of the Forest or a good rare for chest and rings and amulet should have phys dmg and the Frenzy charge.
Just experiment what is best for you or take what you have on hand atm (heck, I used a Tabula till late 70s) ;)
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Being a Fb player since open beta, having 409 hours of play with this facebreaker and being lvl95.

I will say it seem to me Broliciously build would never be viable in maps above 75. Well maybe if you play solo and white maps u could do 77+. But I have big big doubt in a party play or "rotation" your build would even survive the randomness of people map pools.

Let s say a simple shrine lvl 77 with -20 max resist and multi proj + one or 2 other mod like no regen or half regen. I would think your build would not be able to pass the piety first stage boss.

I might be wrong and would need to see a tree, but this seem imo be a low level map or solo build.


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Editado por útlima vez por lolozori#1147 en 30 abr. 2014 16:03:48
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Broliciously escribió:
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Sheriff_K escribió:
You'd need a Life Gain on Hit Gem in your 6-Link though, otherwise there is noway to sustain both the Cost of Frenzy AND the degen of Blood Rage.

Well, I had such a build in the past and it was perfectly viable

The cost of Frenzy should be easily mitigated by the life leech from Blood Rage and Multistrike helps immensely in the mana cost department since the cost is for 3 strikes basically.

With the changes to how Leech works, it's not possible to get away without using the LGoH Gem with this build anymore. It's just not possible.


But I'm curious how you can achieve 120k, or even your purported 240k, dps. Doing the math, I'm looking at around 82k+... >_<
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Editado por útlima vez por Sheriff_K#3938 en 1 may. 2014 14:34:29
So I decided to do some quick tests on my respeced Ranger (lvl 67), so far the concept works though I miss many things (mostly every new change I listed lol, like addational Frenzy charges or Enhance etc).

@lolozori:
I don't know if the build would suffice for end-end-endgame content because I only had acces to 72 maps at that time and I couldn't test it but I can say that not all map mods are a no-go for this build. I did many multiprojectile maps and also some -maxres maps. Mods like that can be countered by playing with position a lot. Even though you have eva, dodge, block and so on, you don't sit in enemy fire intentionally, you still try to not get hit because 2 or 3 unlucky hits in a row that go through your defenses might mean death if your life isn't high enough. Hence a 'rush at them and tear their face off before they do it'-style is how this build is normally played (and yes, it's insanely fun and thrilling if you know you might die in the next moment (though it's a fairly low chance)). No regen maps don't scratch you either as 1) you don't have mana and 2) even if leech is 50% lower, it's still enough to compensate the Blood Rage degen + the Frenzy mana cost. Rather the things to watch out for are bleed or burn but that can be countered via flasks mostly, you just have to quickly react.

@Sheriff_K:
In my quick test with 8% life leech from Blood Rage and 3% life regen I could spam Frenzy all day long and still heal myself, the Frenzy cost was 67, meaning you pay like 22,3 life per strike with Multistrike. That is like nothing lol. With 10 strikes per second that's 223 life which is easily negated by the leech and regen. And don't forget that Blood Rage has the potential to go up to ~15% with more quality and Enhance.

And the damage with 5-link, NO ENHANCE (which gives huuuuge dmg), only 8 Frenzy charges and gems that were max at level 18 and had only partially quality on them (Frenzy had it ofc but my Added Fire and Melee Phys did only have 10% or so) was already this:



So I dunno, how did you do the math? :D

That said, I can easily squeeze out more dps with the things I listed, by getting better rigns and amu and by levelling up and still taking some dmg/attack speed nodes. I think with all these things one can easily overshoot 200k tooltip dps, the real dps would be even higher with Vulnerability ;)
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bump i'll post soon my update on my build


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lolozori escribió:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/547753/page/1

before skill reset it was 154k. But OP of this thread did not update.

I tried his build using only BM toon without es and mana and got 80k. But you then forget about mapping.... at least in my BM version of it, too little defenses. I respected to Ib 30k so I can avoid dying in 75+maps.

40k is easy to get with a 6l and abyssus btw.


melee spash+melee phy+multistrike+added fire dam+infernal blow+faster attack

or

melee spash+melee phy+multistrike+added fire dam+frenzy+faster attack

Frenzy give u the most dps but IB give you better clear speed of mob group.

If you go mana + life you can get easy 50k with hatred auras btw but then you need aegis for sure if you don t want to die from reflect in any 70+ maps.



My marauder does 40k with Frenzy, and no Abyssus (Bringer of Rain socketed Frenzy Multistrike Melee Splash Added Fire, only offensive aura is Hatred).


The biggest advantage of frenzy over infernal blow aside from superior single target dps is that you can ignore all reflects. With the interaction of high hit per second and armor I can totally ignore physical and elemental reflect. Even double physical reflect does a small amount of damage but doesn't put me in danger of suicide. Conversely in my experience elemental reflect can be quite dangerous to the infernal blow spec.
No interest in low life chaos one-shot, but switching to Frenzy from IB might be good. Only thing I'd miss is blowing entire rooms up in a single hit.

I've had zero issues on dual phys+ele reflect maps
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Editado por útlima vez por Fri3dchick3m#5883 en 29 may. 2014 18:22:41

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