ZiggyD's Etheral Knives Mana Shield Scion/Shadow Build Guide - Hardcore (Updated for 1.1)

Hey ziggy, can you update the passive tree?
I wanna try this on the invasion league as it seems very consistent
Hey Zeh, I believe I was able to redo the passive tree pretty similarly to how is was originally. here is what I came up with

1-20
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAKPoxnjWSQYdKyE3jWlJuqoLHiPGbXaZXpwiomrXytz64k9rd6-7yl_no_gr-jw==

20-40
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAFvMc3B2qJjwo-i2oL50xnjWSQYdGcUrITeNaUm6qf8aCHoLHgwmI8ZMnm12io6ZXpwiomrGQtAy18rc-t9a4k8Hz2t3bC9tZ4Yjr7vKX-ej-Cv5J_o8=

40-60
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcVIBZvFvMYPBjbHNwdqiY8KPoppSpNLOktqC-dMZ41kj8nQYdGcUp9SshN404qVcZbr2egbqp08X_Ggh6Cx4MJhTKHdojxj0aTJ5M6oqOmV6cIsZC0DLXytz631riTvSfB889l0NDa3dsL21ndDeGI6-756PzF_gr-Sf6P

60-80
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcRlhUgFm8W8xcvGDwY2xzcHRQdqiY8KPoppSpNLOktqC9vL50xnjWSNuk_J0GHQ2NGcUp9SshN404qVcZV1lj1W69k52aeZ6BuqnC7cU108X_GgKSCHoLHgwmFMod2iPGPRpMnkzqaz53EoqOmV6cIsZC0DLXytzG3PrfWuJO9J8Hzz2XQ0NkT2t3bC9tZ3Q3hiONq6-756PrS_MX-Cv5J_o8=

Full
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAABLMIZxGWFE0VIBbzFy8YPBjbGjgc3B0UHaohwyY8KPoppSpNLOktqC9vL50xnjWSNuk62D8nQYdDY0ZxSn1KyE3YTeNOKlXGVdZX4Vj1W69k52aeZ6BuqnC7cU108X_GgKSBb4IegseDCYUyh3aI8Yx2j0aQVZDWkyeTOprPnjyiAKKjplenCKeEsZC0DLXytzG3PrfWuJO9J8AawfPPZdDQ2RPa3dsL21ndDeGI42rr7uw4-WX56PrS_MX-Cv5J_o8=
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GamerBeard escribió:
Hey Zeh, I believe I was able to redo the passive tree pretty similarly to how is was originally. here is what I came up with

1-20
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAKPoxnjWSQYdKyE3jWlJuqoLHiPGbXaZXpwiomrXytz64k9rd6-7yl_no_gr-jw==

20-40
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAFvMc3B2qJjwo-i2oL50xnjWSQYdGcUrITeNaUm6qf8aCHoLHgwmI8ZMnm12io6ZXpwiomrGQtAy18rc-t9a4k8Hz2t3bC9tZ4Yjr7vKX-ej-Cv5J_o8=

40-60
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcVIBZvFvMYPBjbHNwdqiY8KPoppSpNLOktqC-dMZ41kj8nQYdGcUp9SshN404qVcZbr2egbqp08X_Ggh6Cx4MJhTKHdojxj0aTJ5M6oqOmV6cIsZC0DLXytz631riTvSfB889l0NDa3dsL21ndDeGI6-756PzF_gr-Sf6P

60-80
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcRlhUgFm8W8xcvGDwY2xzcHRQdqiY8KPoppSpNLOktqC9vL50xnjWSNuk_J0GHQ2NGcUp9SshN404qVcZV1lj1W69k52aeZ6BuqnC7cU108X_GgKSCHoLHgwmFMod2iPGPRpMnkzqaz53EoqOmV6cIsZC0DLXytzG3PrfWuJO9J8Hzz2XQ0NkT2t3bC9tZ3Q3hiONq6-756PrS_MX-Cv5J_o8=

Full
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAABLMIZxGWFE0VIBbzFy8YPBjbGjgc3B0UHaohwyY8KPoppSpNLOktqC9vL50xnjWSNuk62D8nQYdDY0ZxSn1KyE3YTeNOKlXGVdZX4Vj1W69k52aeZ6BuqnC7cU108X_GgKSBb4IegseDCYUyh3aI8Yx2j0aQVZDWkyeTOprPnjyiAKKjplenCKeEsZC0DLXytzG3PrfWuJO9J8AawfPPZdDQ2RPa3dsL21ndDeGI42rr7uw4-WX56PrS_MX-Cv5J_o8=


Im not sure you have order right.
According to ziggys video he heads over to templar area for life 20-40 range.
In the 40-60 range he goes up to EB
In the 60-80 range RT and MoM

@ zeh_ watch the video. Nothing really changes.
Git R Dun!
Editado por útlima vez por Aim_Deep en 10 mar. 2014 18:12:51
and the scion is not the best starting point for ZiggyD's build anymore. Make a poe builder comparison and see for yourselves. Shadow/witch far outweighs scion in all aspects for the build concept. More life, more regen, more than doubly effective spell dmg nodes, etc. Less nodes required to traverse the scion area because of the changes in the surrounding life, ES and evasion circles..
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Aim_Deep escribió:
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GamerBeard escribió:
Hey Zeh, I believe I was able to redo the passive tree pretty similarly to how is was originally. here is what I came up with

1-20
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAKPoxnjWSQYdKyE3jWlJuqoLHiPGbXaZXpwiomrXytz64k9rd6-7yl_no_gr-jw==

20-40
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAFvMc3B2qJjwo-i2oL50xnjWSQYdGcUrITeNaUm6qf8aCHoLHgwmI8ZMnm12io6ZXpwiomrGQtAy18rc-t9a4k8Hz2t3bC9tZ4Yjr7vKX-ej-Cv5J_o8=

40-60
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcVIBZvFvMYPBjbHNwdqiY8KPoppSpNLOktqC-dMZ41kj8nQYdGcUp9SshN404qVcZbr2egbqp08X_Ggh6Cx4MJhTKHdojxj0aTJ5M6oqOmV6cIsZC0DLXytz631riTvSfB889l0NDa3dsL21ndDeGI6-756PzF_gr-Sf6P

60-80
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGcRlhUgFm8W8xcvGDwY2xzcHRQdqiY8KPoppSpNLOktqC9vL50xnjWSNuk_J0GHQ2NGcUp9SshN404qVcZV1lj1W69k52aeZ6BuqnC7cU108X_GgKSCHoLHgwmFMod2iPGPRpMnkzqaz53EoqOmV6cIsZC0DLXytzG3PrfWuJO9J8Hzz2XQ0NkT2t3bC9tZ3Q3hiONq6-756PrS_MX-Cv5J_o8=

Full
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAABLMIZxGWFE0VIBbzFy8YPBjbGjgc3B0UHaohwyY8KPoppSpNLOktqC9vL50xnjWSNuk62D8nQYdDY0ZxSn1KyE3YTeNOKlXGVdZX4Vj1W69k52aeZ6BuqnC7cU108X_GgKSBb4IegseDCYUyh3aI8Yx2j0aQVZDWkyeTOprPnjyiAKKjplenCKeEsZC0DLXytzG3PrfWuJO9J8AawfPPZdDQ2RPa3dsL21ndDeGI42rr7uw4-WX56PrS_MX-Cv5J_o8=


Im not sure you have order right.
According to ziggys video he heads over to templar area for life 20-40 range.
In the 40-60 range he goes up to EB
In the 60-80 range RT and MoM

@ zeh_ watch the video. Nothing really changes.



Re-read the post, I am right. I do have it in the right order. It says he heads towards the templar area in 0-20, then goes for eb in 20-40.
Fast update:

Shadow is now better for the build IMO!

But I included a Scion version for those already Scion (like myself).


SHADOW
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB3nfVTxXn8Gtzs4w2VUtteyaVtUhtbFM1m7UZivsJ9toajy2DlwbEosM6Vi2sf90NW69OKimlGNt08YUy_MVnoId2Sn1_xqKjwfOCHtsLEZZwu9kTL28nqVptJDynXElRTC0XUAD9FLA6MKyY99ebodDQz2VVxhZvj0YdFPrSFy9k51XWgKSG0SSwNunjaiSqGYW74_66fXXTfu96UEKiLg5InapirNad7g5W-iP27_BaSOOEiGu29xEvGmzz3Zma62OH22HidFV8zuvkXyo=

SHADOW SOFTCORE VER
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB3nfVTxXn8Gtzs4w2VUtteyaVtUhtbFM1m7UZivsJ9toajy2DlwbEosM6Vi2sf90NW69OKimlGNt08YUy_MVnoId2Sn1_xqKjwfOCHtsLEZZwu9kTL29MLRdQAP0UsDowrJj315uh0NDPZVXGj0YdFPrSFy9k51XWgKSG0SSwNunjaiSqGYW74_66fXXTfu96UEKiLg5InapirNad7g5W-iP27_BaSOOEiGu29xEvGmzz3Zma62OH22HidFV8zuvkXyovnRbzJjykseWOKlvW0dIZ

SCION
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABCGdX4fllIcOQ1pM6vScYPPnogsco-uvuuJN6qprgRZ2nCI9G0NDPZVXGFm8dFPrSFy9k51XWgKQksIbRNunjaiSqGYUabPPdQYe3Pv4KiPE1krXybqpKyD8nKk0VICzp3Q38xWegh3ZKfVuvTioppRjbdPGFMrfW21ktqLGQgwlvnspKwzpWLax_m7UZivsJ9toajy2DlwbEokZx4YgdqrQMkyfcVx6UrD8c3H_GoqPB84Ie2wsnqVptJDynXElREZZwu9kTL2-D2_xLznFsFg==

Will provide more info soon!
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Thanks for the update to this tanky EK build :)
COuld someone set up a leveling guide for the shadow?, like lvl 0-20, 21-40, 41-60 .. etc etc?
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Hey ZiggyD, I enjoyed seeing you play this Scion build and am also planning on trying it out as a Shadow later. The passive skill tree route I came up with is rather different; do you think you could take a look at it and compare it to yours? I don't know if there are any problems with it that I overlooked, but it looks solid to me.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYADkgRlhUgFecWbxcvGNsZhRmGGYoabBqPHNwdqh6UJDwkqiaVJ6ko-imlKk0s6S2DL2826TyORZ1GcUlRSn1OKlBCVUtVxlXWVi1XyVptW69irGTnZ6Bte2-ecLtzs3Txeqp_xoCkgh6Cx4MJg9uFMod2iEKMNo9GkyeXBprgm7Wdqp2uoi6nCKdcrD-sR6x_tAy4k7vjwcXDOsSiykrOcc9l0NDVT9ad2RPbC9xX3Q3ed-GI42rquuss6-7wa_Pd9tr56PrS-wn8S_zF_ro=
Hey ZiggyD, you have a very good tutorial there explaining everything for end game and how the build works which is great. But like so many other builds there is one thing that it's lacking in, information and that is early game.

Now most people assume that everyone know exactly how the early game goes on but that is a fairly wrong assumption. End game is always the easier part because endgame mostly floats to a way to negate damage and deal a ton of AoE damage either with a cone attack that goes through everything or single target damage with multiple projectiles to get a sort of AoE effect... This is to say, end game revolves around using only a skill for the most part.

In the beggining however, both in terms of gems and gear things are not going to be going the same way. You are not going to be running infinite mana regen and it's not really possible to get a ton of auras simply because they reserve way too much mana and you'll also need the mana.

So if at all possible, could you create a leveling tutorial to complete this build guide?

Idealisticly you'd have a run down of what gems to bue using and what to shoot for in item stats to run normal mode and so on until we get to the final build.
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