GGG: Is the Orb of Alchemy vendor recipe working as intended?

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wxyjac escribió:

What? where are you getting this? that person selling exalted just got ripped off

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My characters are far from overpowered because of it. Sure you could trade them for higher orbs, but most don't seem to want alch orbs. They want to keep those higher orbs to use them themselves.

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With all players over 50 getting at least 75 random currency items in the 2 week HC race, such a thing could easily upset the economy far more than the Recipe here. One race a month and we get flooded as soon as someone figures out the most efficient build to get to 80+.

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Piggy escribió:

Some people have so many vested interests on this matter that they could start a medium sized business selling these metaphorical vests and with some government subsidies likely break even year 1.

I digress.

The fact that someone in this post said they had 43 stash tabs for effectively just this recipe surely goes a long way to emphasise just how abused this recipe can get. Yes, I am calling it "abuse" because I earnestly hope GGG wouldn't let a mechanic so in conflict with their core design philosophy intentionally exist!

So now we have 3 camps - the "this is not ethical micros" people, the "I don't care people" and the "I spent hundreds of dollars to make my character slightly better" people. I'd say there was a "this is ethical and an amazing game mechanic" camp but let's not be silly here. If people really want pay for boost options there are a whole host of other games that are far more straight about it.

I just don't see what GGG have to earn by keeping this recipe - I don't think I've encountered anyone on the forums or ingame who told me they bought a supporter pack solely to abuse this recipe. People want to support the game without being kicked in the balls by GGG should they not pay up. Personally come OB I'll have more than enough tabs to do this recipe on a reasonable scale (provided it hasn't been removed, which I very much hope it will be) but I simply do not want to.

If PoE ever goes a hairs breadth closer to being "unethical" I will drop it in a heart beat. No p2w is the biggest selling point of this game to me - pull that out and I'll just go, as I'm sure many others would. I had nearly a year of free beta without this daft recipe, I can't complain to much if I did leave.

As soon as you have one convenience item you might as well have them all (level boosting, drop rate increases..) - that's the exact thinking that Guild Wars 2 went down. Selling convenience is effectively selling ingame "time". Rather than spending hours sorting out a stash you could be out farming monsters for loot an XP - GGG might as well cut to the chase and just sell loot boosts/XP. I was in the very first beta session for GW2 when these microtransactions were revealed and I was so bloody disappointed that I've decided not to purchase the game - gaming should be an escape from real life where your buying influence doesn't impact the progression of your character.

Now please keep in mind that more bank tabs is totally fine with me, I feel it's a luxury that can be lived without. 4 pages is easily enough to do what the stash is intended for: to keep items you'd like use or sell later or items that you simply think are cool. It's when you pair it with a recipe like this that positively incites you to horde every rare and max out your stash that I'm more than a little unimpressed.

GGG should just give the option to refund your tabs for 30 points and remove this nonsense recipe - it's not like it impacts them financially after you've already bought the points. Then people with absurd 40+ stash collections wont feel hard done by and we can all get over this ridiculous debacle.

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velrac escribió:

already bought 30+ stash tabs solely for hoarding of rares because of the alchemy/regal/chaos orbs recipes

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velrac escribió:

Concerning the part I bolded I currently have 18 alchemy orbs in my stash and 57 matching rare name sets in the bank that I have been to lazy to sell for the 57 alchemy orbs. I believe that would consitute 10 times the normal amount of alchemy orbs most people have.

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*** With the new alchemy u get you can use it on a good white, if it turn out to a crap rare, now you have another 1/2 alchemy orbs

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hungryneko escribió:

Have you ever done trading and bidding? alchemy is an very common accepted orbs, general by the rate 1gcp:6alchemy

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T6SROF escribió:

I know this has been discussed a ton before I ever even got here, but the best loot system I can think of off the top of my head is from Rift.

In Rift you can set the "roll limit" for items. That would be something like "rare items are rolled." When a rare item is "looted" by right clicking it a window pops up for everyone in the party with two options "need/greed."

You click "need" and everyone else clicks "greed" and you get it. If you all click "need" the highest roll wins.

Basically, you keep moving, you make 1 click (with a timer on screen so you can't sit there an agonize all day) and then it's up to the random number generator who gets it.

What is different in Rift is the game knows what you can and can't use so if it's something you cannot equip you can only "greed" roll it.

It just seemed like a very elegant solution to an age old problem. No drama, no BS, no slowdowns, just click, and if you win you'll hear your bag noise and you'll have your new loot.