[3.5] Guffin's McSundae Strike | All Bosses Down | Fast and Safe Mapping | Skillchoices

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HDTanel escribió:

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Alright finally made the switch, did 2 labs and grabbed the lifesteal node.
You can check my gear, 4link reave and blade flurry
Well being honest here it is absolute dog shit atm lol. I don´t know how you would league start with this really. ACT X bosses are pretty hard as DPS is so low to gain anything over the max so you wouldnt get oneshotted.

Kinda sad as this means you are 100000% dependent that somebody lists an item at the start of the league.. without that item you are not gonna have any fun at all.. and that is just if one item would be enough to atleast do white maps.

Will buy some cheap starter items you recommended when I wake up and see how much it changes the clearspeed. Atm trapper just facerolls over this.. Trapper I only needed random shaper gloves and easy crafted the trap support on it.. didnt even need that actually.. all random selffound rares took you easy to red maps. EASY.

Sooo.. yeahh, very dissapointed atm but.. will see how good it is by buying some very cheap unique items.

Dude, if you don't follow the Gear recommendations you're not following this Guide.
I stress multiple Times in the Guide that Rares are incredibly important for us, and I highlight the specific Uniques required for the Build pretty clearly. I also say that this is more expensive to gear than a Trapper in the "Cons" of the Build. What the fuck did you expect?

You legit have done nothing like shown in the Guide except the Tree. There is a guy a few posts up that played this as his second fucking character ever that did a far better Job than you, simply because he was capable of seeing what gear was required and buying that.
Other than that, this certainly works at a League Start because the Items are up, just like they are now. And a few pages back we have some reports from an SSF player that is having a good time as well.
Just because you are unwilling or incapable of following a Guide, don't trash talk a Build.

Get out of here.
Maybe this Build is not for you, and that is completely fine mate.

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Asbestoxic escribió:

Thank you for the great help, did a couple of uber elders just fine, no deathless yet, but I think it's all just practice.

Still I think the shaper guardians are sometimes harder, but I have to roll some rippy mods to at least try and sustain guardian maps.

As for the ring, I was actually thinking of even 'downgrading' it for more resistance since I'm having trouble with ele weakness maps. I guess that's the price to pay for using Kaom's roots instead of life/res boots.

For anyone interested, i'm actually using conc. effect in my reave setup for delving and i'm doing ok at depths 300~. I'll definitely look towards the molten strike version after i'm done with grinding guardians.

Great to hear your success on Uber Elder, hope you had some good Loot :)

Like I said: Guardians can be the rippiest Bosses in the Game :P
Ele Weakness overcapping is unneccessary if you play while you're awake/not overly stressed or exhausted like some racers are and don't forget your Curse Flaks.

Hope you get at least some deathless Runs in, and I still really recommend going for a better Ring.
Let me know how it goes for you :)

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lecujh escribió:

Thanks for a great guide. been awesome so far.

I would really appreciate if someone can have a look at my character and give some feedback what to improve/change etc.

Character: ShoplifterMcFlurry

Glad you liked it so far!

As for some recommendations:
You need to get at least 1 Socket Tombfists and a Murderous Eye in them for a free 10% more Damage Boost.
I'd also recommend upgrading the Abyss Jewel in your Belt to one with Life.
Your Rings and Amulet are okay, but can be easily upgraded. Just look around in the Trade Links and play a bit in PoB.
Most importantly maybe, transition to the Endgame Tree seeing that you got your Uber Lab and didn't do any of the respecs yet :P
After all of that, I would personally go for a conversion Watchers Eye and 2 Meeks. Or maybe a better Claw, since yours is okayish but incredibly slow. That will feel bad in all areas of Gameplay. I really recommend going for a faster one (with LGoH, good Crit etc. obviously).

Hope that gives you a point to start from, keep me updated on how it goes for you :)

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One thing to note guys:
I am very happy about how many people enjoy this Build and have found success with it, and I also like helping out in general!

That said, I alway see people that simply don't fucking read the Guide or don't follow it at at all, that run into problems along the way and get fed up.
I know the Guide is long, but it covers about 90% of the Questions I get asked. If you want to play this Build, there is a Guide. Read it, do what it says, have success 99% of the time. I'm always down to see what can be improved in terms of Gear etc., but if I see you haven't been following the Guide at all in terms of Items (gear and Flasks) or the Tree, don't be surprised if I get pissed.

I put a lot of effort into this Guide to make it as thorough as it is, but still I see some people shitting all over it every League.
And btw, the Cons are there for a reason: this is tougher to Gear than a random Trapper, and it requires a very active playstyle. If that is not your Cup of tea, don't play it.

Hey OP

Since my last post I have made a loooot of progress and have once again reacquainted myself with most of the game. The build is amazing, surprisingly tanky with >6k life, ToH flask, and 2x Meek jewels.

Would you be able to take a look at my gear/tree and make any recommendations on what upgrade path you'd follow (as to what to upgrade first, then next, etc)? I think my rares are sub optimal, so probably that, I just don't know which first.. amulet?

Thanks.

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decyphier escribió:

Hey OP

Since my last post I have made a loooot of progress and have once again reacquainted myself with most of the game. The build is amazing, surprisingly tanky with >6k life, ToH flask, and 2x Meek jewels.

Would you be able to take a look at my gear/tree and make any recommendations on what upgrade path you'd follow (as to what to upgrade first, then next, etc)? I think my rares are sub optimal, so probably that, I just don't know which first.. amulet?

Thanks.

Yo dude, great to hear you're enjoying the Build :)

As for Upgrades:
Your Claw is pretty horrible sadly. It has nice Pdps, but no Crit and bad Attack Speed (which will make it feel bad in all Situations).
Even a completely average (50% in all Attributes) rolled Wasp Nest is a slight DPS increase for you. So get on that.

After that, go make some slight Changes to your Tree:

Same Life, more DPS.
On that topic, you are still very low level. Get on that :P
You might struggle with INT tho, you really need to get an INT roll on one or 2 Rares.

Other than that, your left ring is the next weakest Slot at the moment.
A ring like this would be a 4% DPS Upgrade:


The rest of your Character looks really solid! You definitely got the gist of gearing it :)

Let me know how that goes for you.

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Guffinn escribió:

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HDTanel escribió:

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Alright finally made the switch, did 2 labs and grabbed the lifesteal node.
You can check my gear, 4link reave and blade flurry
Well being honest here it is absolute dog shit atm lol. I don´t know how you would league start with this really. ACT X bosses are pretty hard as DPS is so low to gain anything over the max so you wouldnt get oneshotted.

Kinda sad as this means you are 100000% dependent that somebody lists an item at the start of the league.. without that item you are not gonna have any fun at all.. and that is just if one item would be enough to atleast do white maps.

Will buy some cheap starter items you recommended when I wake up and see how much it changes the clearspeed. Atm trapper just facerolls over this.. Trapper I only needed random shaper gloves and easy crafted the trap support on it.. didnt even need that actually.. all random selffound rares took you easy to red maps. EASY.

Sooo.. yeahh, very dissapointed atm but.. will see how good it is by buying some very cheap unique items.

Dude, if you don't follow the Gear recommendations you're not following this Guide.
I stress multiple Times in the Guide that Rares are incredibly important for us, and I highlight the specific Uniques required for the Build pretty clearly. I also say that this is more expensive to gear than a Trapper in the "Cons" of the Build. What the fuck did you expect?

You legit have done nothing like shown in the Guide except the Tree. There is a guy a few posts up that played this as his second fucking character ever that did a far better Job than you, simply because he was capable of seeing what gear was required and buying that.
Other than that, this certainly works at a League Start because the Items are up, just like they are now. And a few pages back we have some reports from an SSF player that is having a good time as well.
Just because you are unwilling or incapable of following a Guide, don't trash talk a Build.

Get out of here.
Maybe this Build is not for you, and that is completely fine mate.

Dude, I now put on all your recommended gear and it is DOG SHIT still lol. I am lvl60 and white mob packs even kill me easily, leech seems to have no effect, it gets my health pack up quickly but I don´t feel it ever like overleeches for more then 0.5sec.. so 0.5s buffer which is gone when I reach next pack.
I don´t understand how you can progress with this build.. just no way this can kill anything

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HDTanel escribió:

Dude, I now put on all your recommended gear and it is DOG SHIT still lol. I am lvl60 and white mob packs even kill me easily, leech seems to have no effect, it gets my health pack up quickly but I don´t feel it ever like overleeches for more then 0.5sec.. so 0.5s buffer which is gone when I reach next pack.
I don´t understand how you can progress with this build.. just no way this can kill anything

No, you did not.

As of writing this, you're still missing tons of the League Start Gear. Not only Gear Uniques, also Flasks.
I won't tell you what you're doing wrong, it's literally all written out.

And as I said, others have had no problems. Be it SSF, as a 2nd Character ever, or as more experienced Players.
Everyone that played this Build either pushed into red Maps/Shaper easily, and some took on Uber Elder, and some people that don't bother with reading the Guide failed.

You may be the latter. Like I said dude, maybe this Build isn't for you.
You can not put your Failings on the Guide, when it's worked out dozens of times and you are saying you did everything as recommended, when you're still missing so much.
As a sidenote, there aree 28 Players Level 94 and above (lower ones don't get indexed) currently playing this Build (or a very similar one) in Delve SC:
https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?class=Ascendant&skill=Reave&keystone=Slayer,Raider,Path-of-the-Ranger,Vaal-Pact,Acrobatics
+ some that made minor Variations in the Keystones or Skillchoices.
And then obviously some below Level 94 :P

This is not meant to attack you on a personal Level, even tho it might come off as that. If that's the case, I beg your pardon.
But as a matter of fact, you are simply failing at reading the Guide thoroughly and following it. That can happen, it's a wall of Text. But don't put your shortcomings on the Guide.

It's completely fine to admit that you couldn't follow this Guide and drop the Character. There are tons to chose from out there, and regardless of which one you end up with, I hope you have a good time with it :)

Hi Guffinn,

killed all guardians now 4-5 times deathless. Delve is around 250 and still smooth as fuck xD

Could you please have a look at my gear? Had a lucky Red-Elder drop and i am now sitting on around 5-6 Ex. What would you upgrade next?

If i go for Tombfist with 2x abysall socket i will lose Herald of Purity (which i only use for guardians - but i often forget about it because single dps is just too good). Do you think this is a problem?

Thanks again!

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HDTanel escribió:

I don´t understand how you can progress with this build.. just no way this can kill anything

I dont get why Guffin bothers answering you. You must be trolling, you are the only one in the entire f#)@*&$ world that cant kill anything with this build. Are you kidding? wtf

Lots of people had sucess, even in SSF, do you really think the problem is in the guide or builld? cmon...

I finally hit 91 and break my personal record once again. This league has been nothing but a blast to me.

Can you please look at my char and tell me what I should upgrade ASAP? I will socket Unnatural Instinct in and go for Heart of the Oak first, but then after that I dont know what to upgrade first, jewels or claw.


Ty for your time and effort :)

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HDTanel escribió:

I don´t understand how you can progress with this build.. just no way this can kill anything

I dont get why Guffin bothers answering you. You must be trolling, you are the only one in the entire f#)@*&$ world that cant kill anything with this build. Are you kidding? wtf

Lots of people had sucess, even in SSF, do you really think the problem is in the guide or builld? cmon...

Seriously...

Hey actually I think Guffin is nicer to this jackass than he is to the rest of us who actually like and appreciate his guide :D :D :D

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Perce79 escribió:

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HDTanel escribió:

I don´t understand how you can progress with this build.. just no way this can kill anything

I dont get why Guffin bothers answering you. You must be trolling, you are the only one in the entire f#)@*&$ world that cant kill anything with this build. Are you kidding? wtf

Lots of people had sucess, even in SSF, do you really think the problem is in the guide or builld? cmon...

Seriously...

Hey actually I think Guffin is nicer to this jackass than he is to the rest of us who actually like and appreciate his guide :D :D :D

He is nice to everyone and make a great effort to not lose his temper. I already admire the guy