[3.2] Abyss Shripper feat. Chin Sol - Raider TS Barrage / 6k+ Life 3.8M Shaper DPS / Uber Elder Down

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hankinsohl escribió:
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ashaze escribió:
Opinion on Farruls fur?
I know its pricey but i finaly got it yesterday to try it and it is absolutely nuts.

Farrul's Fur looks nice; I haven't tried to model it in POB though.

Are you able to get permanent uptime on Power/Frenzy charges with Farrul's?

Edit - Compared Farrul's against Shroud just now in POB. Shroud appears to give a lot more DPS but perhaps Farrul's is better for mapping? (more defense?)


In POB farruls is same damage. Perhaps you forgot to add a 6th socket to farruls? because shroud comes at 6 sockets but only 5 gems. The damage is very similar due to the fact that you just use slow proj.

For me i have no duration increase nodes as i play champion but downtime is aroudn 2 seconds per rotation, I know with duration you can make uptime 100%.

Note that farruls ofcoz is better for deadeye or champion since you get free charges.

Farruls is definitely better for bosses then shroud.
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ashaze escribió:
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hankinsohl escribió:
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ashaze escribió:
Opinion on Farruls fur?
I know its pricey but i finaly got it yesterday to try it and it is absolutely nuts.

Farrul's Fur looks nice; I haven't tried to model it in POB though.

Are you able to get permanent uptime on Power/Frenzy charges with Farrul's?

Edit - Compared Farrul's against Shroud just now in POB. Shroud appears to give a lot more DPS but perhaps Farrul's is better for mapping? (more defense?)


In POB farruls is same damage. Perhaps you forgot to add a 6th socket to farruls? because shroud comes at 6 sockets but only 5 gems. The damage is very similar due to the fact that you just use slow proj.

For me i have no duration increase nodes as i play champion but downtime is aroudn 2 seconds per rotation, I know with duration you can make uptime 100%.

Note that farruls ofcoz is better for deadeye or champion since you get free charges.

Farruls is definitely better for bosses then shroud.

>> In POB farruls is same damage.
I get 2.9M Barrage DPS with Farrul's after adding 20/20 Slower Proj, enabling power charges and creating a custom belt w/ the Cat Aspect mod (and I enabled Cat's Stealth) versus 3.0M w/ Shroud against Shaper/Guardian. I just took the OP's POB pastebin and then added in Farrul's, a custom belt w/ same stats as OP's but with the Cat Aspect Mod instead of the Crab Aspect, 20/20 Slower Proj and enabled power charges and Cat's Stealth for the comparison against Shroud (5-link, no power charges).

That said, w/ Farrul's you could go Deadeye instead of Raider and maybe tweak the tree somewhat to achieve higher DPS.

Editado por útlima vez por hankinsohl en 6 abr. 2018 6:24:54
Nice build, leveling is rly smooth, bosses dont have a chance. I made some adjustements (deadeye) and maybe some different gems but the basic is the same and now i managed to kill Uber Elder (with Windripper, no Chin soil, and with TS mainly), so thumbs up for this build :)

Here is my PoB:
https://pastebin.com/NuHgmgCP

Here my end gear:
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Mind if I ask what you would upgrade next? Feeling pretty good about my character, sitting at 3.7m barrage DPS against Shaper, but I want to try fighting Uber Elder soon and not sure what to upgrade next.

Gear:
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Guys please assist what is wrong with my char, DPS is not even close to what it should be

here is my pastebin

https://pastebin.com/yu6KEALD

in my character tab - Anihhillator

Thank you in advance
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blekotacz escribió:
Nice build, leveling is rly smooth, bosses dont have a chance. I made some adjustements (deadeye) and maybe some different gems but the basic is the same and now i managed to kill Uber Elder (with Windripper, no Chin soil, and with TS mainly), so thumbs up for this build :)

Grats on the Uber Elder kill.

I'm currently playing Deadeye too. Do you prefer the "Ricochet" ascendancy to "Fast and Deadly?"
Sorry for delay of responses.

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bestesthunterEU escribió:
Managed to down uber elder! Boss fight was super fast(took 3 attempts RIP 3 ex) as mechanics took time to get used to.

I'm going to be stopping playing now as I have exams but will be selling all my gear if anyone is interested. Have some GG jewels and what not and at 97 I would be at 4.4mil dps(poB)


Grats on Uber elder kill.

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Hiwashi escribió:
I haven't played PoE since Legacy League and I was about to quit this league too since the first 3 characters that I had made weren't that fun to play. I decided to try one more time, sold everything I had from those 3 character and decided to put it all towards a single character. After browsing the forum a bit I ended up deciding to try this build. I'm a fan of Bow Character in general and it looked capable of doing end game content and even transitioning in to MF later ( also something I always wanted to try but never got to it ).

Anyway, back to the point. I had about 10 EX and after spending some of it respecing my Tree and buying gear this is what I ended up with:

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POB: https://pastebin.com/YKvxjAWU



After mapping for the last 3 levels with the character, I've to say that it is absolutely incredible. I never played with Tornado Shot before and I always loved the shattering of Herald of Ice so playing this build is pure bliss.

However, now that started moving in to red maps it's starting to get a bit difficult again and I've died quite a few times. I entered Spider Forest level 83 with 80%, left level 83 with 20%.

Clearly I still have to improve a lot of things in my gear but the thing is, I'm quite low on money ( about 60 chaos ) and I'm not sure which slot it would be better for me to improve first.

Not sure how much it matters but my league goal at the moment is to complete my atlas ( 119/157 ) and then probably alternate between MF farming in low tier maps for The Doctor and doing Guardians so I can build wealth/experience to try out Uber Elder later on in the League.


Hi, great to hear you like it.
First, keep leveling increased duration gem! It will increase your vaal grace duration. You should turn on Vaal Grace whenever you feel risky such as Abyss, Breach, Boss fight.

It's been late so I am not sure how your budget changes. First thing to change seems like abyss jewels that misses life, quiver and amulet that misses crit multiplier. Particularly quiver with life, crit multiplier, and elemental damage wasnt pricey(no add arrow, I bought quiver at day5 for 15chaos iirc). Check out my budget gears example at day 5 and at day 7. I was able to complete 157/157 atlas and to take down most of end-game boss.


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Gold3h escribió:
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Can you post your gears and passives or pob link? So I can look at it.


Sure. Here is my PoB link. I've made some major improvements since my post and I have no issues in up to T7's or T8's ish (maps). Haven't tried much higher. Still looking for advice though. :)

PoB link for my current stuffs: https://pastebin.com/nPMkqPSP

Let me know what works :)


Hey.
I've looked at your pob. First thing is you are wasting 2 points above Thick Skin(5 O'clock direction). I'd rather use the 2 points into Trickery > Blood Siphon > Coordination + 30 int node.

This will free you up from int requirement for Shroud.

In terms of skill gem, I highly recommend you use Vaal Grace in the place of Vaal haste. It's one of core defense of this build. Use whenever you feel dangerours.

For gears. I'd upgrade by this order : Quiver with crit multiplier (such as my budget at day 5) > 2 socket Tombfist > Shroud > and buying or crafting abyss jewels, because you said you need more dps.


How on earth are some of you guys sitting at like 2-3m dps for Barrage? I'm at about 200k. Nooooo idea how I'm supposed to be hitting a number like that?

Any suggestions welcome. My toon is available for viewing on my profile..

Thanks
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JerryVoy escribió:
Hey, almost done with the build just need some better Jewels imo. Is there any way i could use aspect of the avian? Maybee link Anger + Herald to Enlighten?

Gear:

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I turned off herald of ice when I use aspect aura. When you feel your dps is enough, turning off herald is ok because we stack enough flat ele damage from jewels. But I like gore herald effect so much, I use herald of ice 99% of time I play.

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bestesthunterEU escribió:
I'm realy trying to contemplate using deadeye instead, if I remove frenzy nodes and go fast and deadly, far shot, endless munitions and gathering winds I gain about 400k DPS even after turning off frenzy charges. Was wondering what can be done about elemental ailments


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hankinsohl escribió:

You're going to be sacrificing something to cope with ailments: Cyclopean Coil, flasks, various other uniques...

I'm interested in OP's opinion about Deadeye.


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bestesthunterEU escribió:


yea that's what I was thinking, I wish there was a good way to balance it. How important is elemental ailment resistance?


What I thought at the announcement of deadeye change is it looks great but misses elemental ailment immune.

If I need freeze immune(by going deadeye), we need to use 1 flask suffix for freeze/chill removal. This means I can't use "of warding"(curse immune) flask that cover elemental weakness, temporal chain, enfeeble, or vulnerability curse map modes. I heavily focus on mapping so I can't immagine me playing without of warding flask. That's why I keep playing as raider.

I've got many question on this topic so I will add this into FAQ section :)


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ulikkooo escribió:
hello guys!!

is %90 hit chance enough for end game ? and how much crit chance re we need ?


Yes I did all contents with 90-91% hit chance. Crit chances are 60(TS)-80(Barrage) with Windripper.

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ashaze escribió:
Hi Guys,

You should also consider champion as the option. The 20 more damage from taunted and 100% accuracy is a big one. And you gain alot of mitigation while sacrificing not that much damage at all.


Sounds intersting. Quick redistribution of my passive tree :
https://pastebin.com/1DhvSqp8

0.2M shaper dps loss, 19% lower movement speed but alot of mitigation from fortify and taunt. Seems good trade off if focus on better survivality.

But again, same problem as deadeye - no warding or sacrifice something else to use warding flask.


Editado por útlima vez por kaleav en 6 abr. 2018 20:49:13
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Gold3h escribió:
How on earth are some of you guys sitting at like 2-3m dps for Barrage? I'm at about 200k. Nooooo idea how I'm supposed to be hitting a number like that?

Any suggestions welcome. My toon is available for viewing on my profile..

Thanks



Looking at your char, there are plenty of upgrades.
Quiver, Flasks, 6link, Chin Sol for Barrage and I didn´t check jewels.
I am sitting on ~2.6mil dps with barrage currently. That´s with Deadeye not with Raider.

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