[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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Rupenus escribió:
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Update: I just looked up barrage mechanics and it shoots all projectiles within 60% of attack time, so if my current attack time is 0.37 seconds, this means all arrows are shot within 220ms, which means that I'm only getting one or two procs per barrage (since the internal cooldown is 200ms), regardless of the number of projectiles. With 50% crit the average procs should be 1.25 per barrage, or around 3.3 flask charges per second, or 0.7 charges per flask per second, before flask charges gained mods. This is not nearly enough to sustain anything at all.. unless I'm doing it all wrong?


thanks for doing math and trying to figure out things alone first. many people don't do that.

you get 5 charges per second aftger "nerf", if you are a pathfinder this is more than enough. use a belt iwth -less flask charges used- suffix, thats what we do. or we use the retch belt for +60% flask duration.

this used to be worse. you had to deal 50 crit strikes per second to get 5 charges before "nerf". (master surgeon was adding flask charges 1 out of 10 critical strikes approximately)

so in short, barrage flask charge generation got buffed. (BV got nerfed though, and this nerf was aiming to tame BV)


But aren't the charges distributed among all flasks now? So if you get 5 charges in total, each flask gets 1 charge, unless you don't use any of the other flasks.

From patch notes:

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Flask Charge Generation on Critical Strike:
* A character can now only receive one flask charge per Critical Strike every 200ms. This is shared across all flasks.
* The Harvest and Master Surgeon now follow this rule. Instead of giving a charge to each of your flasks, they will only grant it to one.
* The Master Surgeon Node now has 100% chance to trigger (up from 15%) to help compensate for this change.
yes but as a pathfinder, only vinktar is needed in boss fights. you may use rumi's too. but as you have 10k ES/somehow stun immunity and good dps, it's not necessary.
"You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
But if you're not taking master alchemist, you at the very least need to pop a grounding flask along with vinktars, and possibly a heat on some bosses that can freeze you.

Btw how does Overflowing Chalice interact with the new surgeon mechanic? Can it waste the procs while its active?
Sup breh. do you think this is viable for HC Breach? All the major bosses?


Also - how do you feel about Pathfinder as a choice given the new Raider changes????


Edit: also, your uber atziri vid uses LA. You get chunked quite hard and I'm not exactly sure this is HC viable for Uber/Shaper.
Editado por útlima vez por Illsonmedia#5266 en 18 dic. 2016 22:40:02
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Illsonmedia escribió:
Sup breh. do you think this is viable for HC Breach? All the major bosses?


Also - how do you feel about Pathfinder as a choice given the new Raider changes????


Edit: also, your uber atziri vid uses LA. You get chunked quite hard and I'm not exactly sure this is HC viable for Uber/Shaper.


You could make this tankier (more ES, block) making it more suitable for HC. Haven't tested in HC so I can't give you a definitive answer.

Pathfinder is still the best for this build, no question.
G'day g'day.
I've thrown roughly 25 ex into this build ( from scratch minus a legacy 5l ROTC, also haven't bought gloves/signalshot yet ) but with my current items which are pretty bloody high tier ( check out my ranger, can't link my things while on mobile ) while running discipline I'm sitting on roughly 5.5k ES. I took it for a test map last night just to see how it goes and I died a fair few times on a map the same level as I was.
Mind you, I've never played a chaos innoc char before, is there a different playstyle to playing CI vs evasion ?
Cheers
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TwiiTch97 escribió:
G'day g'day.
I've thrown roughly 25 ex into this build ( from scratch minus a legacy 5l ROTC, also haven't bought gloves/signalshot yet ) but with my current items which are pretty bloody high tier ( check out my ranger, can't link my things while on mobile ) while running discipline I'm sitting on roughly 5.5k ES. I took it for a test map last night just to see how it goes and I died a fair few times on a map the same level as I was.
Mind you, I've never played a chaos innoc char before, is there a different playstyle to playing CI vs evasion ?
Cheers


your character screen is hidden, 5k ES is dramatically low.
"You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
After playing this build for a while with an average budget, DPS is seriously off the charts. T15 bosses and even T16 guardians melt in seconds. Only issue I had was with Shaper but perhaps Im just a bad player.. Dps is pretty good for me at ~80k dps for LA and ~70k dps for Barrage but my ES is only at 8k. I dont think there's any relatively affordable way for me to boost ES to 9-10k but let me know if I'm missing anything.

Thanks!



https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAAHRBbUGIwceCIkOSA5cD8QRLxFQEYERlhR1FdcXlhslHU8gbiF2JJ0k_SepKgsrCiy_LR8wfDH6Nbk3TDfUOdQ7fEQNRX5HBklRSbFLrkyzUDBRR1ZjVvpbr11oXfJfamJaY0Njp2r6bRltbG_ycFJwu3b3d9d7FH8rf4B_xoauhs6J04w2jZKNv4_6kyeVBZUglS6a8aCfoSKhL6GkokCio6TCpyun1K_rtUi4yr6KwTPB88Six53I8Mqp0B_Q0NN-18_ZW91G35jh2-dU53To1ukC6ZjrY-wY7T_uDu9674jv6_DV8uH0-Pc9-Tf-yP8Q_94=?accountName=eugenez&characterName=LeaneSharif
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eugenez escribió:
After playing this build for a while with an average budget, DPS is seriously off the charts. T15 bosses and even T16 guardians melt in seconds. Only issue I had was with Shaper but perhaps Im just a bad player.. Dps is pretty good for me at ~80k dps for LA and ~70k dps for Barrage but my ES is only at 8k. I dont think there's any relatively affordable way for me to boost ES to 9-10k but let me know if I'm missing anything.

Thanks!



https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAAHRBbUGIwceCIkOSA5cD8QRLxFQEYERlhR1FdcXlhslHU8gbiF2JJ0k_SepKgsrCiy_LR8wfDH6Nbk3TDfUOdQ7fEQNRX5HBklRSbFLrkyzUDBRR1ZjVvpbr11oXfJfamJaY0Njp2r6bRltbG_ycFJwu3b3d9d7FH8rf4B_xoauhs6J04w2jZKNv4_6kyeVBZUglS6a8aCfoSKhL6GkokCio6TCpyun1K_rtUi4yr6KwTPB88Six53I8Mqp0B_Q0NN-18_ZW91G35jh2-dU53To1ukC6ZjrY-wY7T_uDu9674jv6_DV8uH0-Pc9-Tf-yP8Q_94=?accountName=eugenez&characterName=LeaneSharif


not much you can do except getting more es from gear, CI attack builds are expensive if you want top es and top dps
i have 9500 es without discipline ( using the best gear i have except a 400es helmet instead of 500+ but no skyforth), with 15% less increased %es than your tree

if you had the best gear, with your tree you would have 11k es instead of 8k
Editado por útlima vez por InAshesTheyShallReap#0055 en 20 dic. 2016 2:36:43


my items so far, haven't bought gloves or a signalshot.

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