[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

I can't get my POB to work, anyone else testing Primal Spirit vs Soul Siphon annointment?
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Nospheratusus escribió:
Hi all, what if use Crown of the Inward Eye?
We lose in survivability, but get 3 times more damage.


Memory Vault is the central item of the build... We don't lose some survivability we lose a literal fuckton by not using it.

My PoB says we lose 2700 ES and 26000 armour, yes twenty-six thousand.

And I don't see how we gain any damage from it. It gives us literally 0 damage, right?
Editado por útlima vez por Mecielle#3021 en 5 ene. 2020 14:55:44
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NSUCK escribió:
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hitmantb escribió:
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crazypearce escribió:
Just a warning for people wanting to try the vaal skellies version of this build... Don't bother. The clear feels terrible and bossing feels terrible too because they die super fast resulting in a pretty low dps uptime. Even popping the vaal CD didn't feel too great and this was with almost 800k dps per skelly, so I'm not sure what the deal is with that. You can't run reflect maps and the spectres constantly die even in low red tier maps

It was a 'fun' experiment but now I gotta try sell all that shite gear and rebuy what I orinally had for the HoAg... Stupid fucking mistakes man...


Really sorry to hear that, I tried it again myself after reading NSUCK's experience a few pages back: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/NSUCK/characters, and didn't like it enough to add it back as a variant. I removed it as a variant after I came to the same conclusion as you did.

I had the same problem, on paper Skeletons do 150-200% more single target boss damage, but even in these situations, crawler kills boss faster. I can only imagine this is because there is no chaos resistance to bosses, or maybe tail spike projectiles can hit a boss more than once per attack?


The difference in skeleton levels must make a huge difference because this is not my experience at all. When my internet isn't getting ping spikes my clear speed is similar to videos Sabba has on his twitch channel (I watched them with that specifically in mind after everyone said skeleton clear was bad).

Reflect maps are fine, you just recast skeles more often (think of it as using an attack spell). Metamorphs rarely decimate my skeletons, the really nasty ones can kill them but I just keep re-summoning them and they go down (typical metamorh from t14-16 with a max tube dies in under 3 seconds, some nasty ones can go up to 10 seconds).

I recently ditched the flayers and added the apes and a AG. Sitting at 24k ES and 6-10m DPS (haven't re-ran PoB yet but it should be 6m mapping and near 10m bossing with gem swap)


Is it possible for you to record a few videos? Really curious to see what a min/max Skeleton build with our defense looks like :)
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Nugsterx escribió:
How do i run hatred and HoA without dropping 5 exalts on a Circle of Nostalgia ring with reduced mana reservation on HoA? i have all the ring talent points.

Is that the only way or am i missing something?


Enlighten on your Shaper's Touch and link the sockets.
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Nugsterx escribió:
How do i run hatred and HoA without dropping 5 exalts on a Circle of Nostalgia ring with reduced mana reservation on HoA? i have all the ring talent points.

Is that the only way or am i missing something?
Start with just the reduced mana reserved. That will let you run hatred and skitterbots (depending on HoA supports) Reduced mana reserved and increased damage together is expensive, you can decide what priority that is later.
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Nugsterx escribió:
How do i run hatred and HoA without dropping 5 exalts on a Circle of Nostalgia ring with reduced mana reservation on HoA? i have all the ring talent points.

Is that the only way or am i missing something?


Think it's pretty mandatory. I rerolled my cheap ring with 2 divines and got lucky with 40 reduced reservation.

Another option is to put charisma on your amulet, but it's pretty expensive. You can also run some of the jewels with reduced Mana reservation corrupt and enlighten 4 will also help, though that's even more expensive option ofc.
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Obermaster10 escribió:
So i just tested with annointment and Soul Siphon give more ES then Primal Spirit .. if its just for the ES. Its more expensive tho than Primal Spirit


SS gives you +10 Mana & 18% total mana vs +20Str +20Int & 15% total mana. When I plugged it into my POB it actually dropped my ES by nearly 200ES. Maybe for other people with different builds it would be an increase but it can't be more than 100 maybe 200ES difference between the two and SS is much more expensive.
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Mecielle escribió:
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Nospheratusus escribió:
Hi all, what if use Crown of the Inward Eye?
We lose in survivability, but get 3 times more damage.


Memory Vault is the central item of the build... We don't lose some survivability we lose a literal fuckton by not using it.

My PoB says we lose 2700 ES and 26000 armour, yes twenty-six thousand.

And I don't see how we gain any damage from it. It gives us literally 0 damage, right?


PoB does not add bonuses to damage.
In the game at 8500 mana increases damage by 3.25 times and when we need survival we use granite flask and MS and we can use flesh and stone.
and Yes these are just thoughts...

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Nospheratusus escribió:
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Mecielle escribió:
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Nospheratusus escribió:
Hi all, what if use Crown of the Inward Eye?
We lose in survivability, but get 3 times more damage.


Memory Vault is the central item of the build... We don't lose some survivability we lose a literal fuckton by not using it.

My PoB says we lose 2700 ES and 26000 armour, yes twenty-six thousand.

And I don't see how we gain any damage from it. It gives us literally 0 damage, right?


PoB does not add bonuses to damage.
In the game at 8500 mana increases damage by 3.25 times and when we need survival we use granite flask and MS and we can use flesh and stone.
and Yes these are just thoughts...



My PoB DOES calculate the damage from the Transfigurations, I use the LocalIdentity fork.

And it gives damage based on mana. Not minion damage. The only thing it does is boost my Ball Lightning damage by around 7 times its value.
Editado por útlima vez por Mecielle#3021 en 5 ene. 2020 15:32:57
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Mecielle escribió:


My PoB DOES calculate the damage from the Transfigurations, I use the LocalIdentity fork.

And it gives damage based on mana. Not minion damage. The only thing it does is boost my Ball Lightning damage by around 7 times its value.


I don't want to argue with you and convince you of something, just check in the game, not in pob.

In any case all options are good :)

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