Betrayal is the worst league mechanic of all time

The rest of the stuff that came with 3.5 was great (expect the way new masters work).

Best way to play this league is to ignore it, leave them in the Lab and never go in.

Cant wait for next league

Best way to deal with Betrayal is to make a proper character though, and not having a 4k life Tabula wearing badass run around in maps :L

I think that bestiary is worse

Delve is worst by far, no one even delves.

Betrayal is only horrible if the massive addition to crafting suddenly becomes significantly harder to obtain access too. It's already kinda shit, like... RNGJESUS unveiling is iffyy. Gonna be near impossible to find an item with that mod + the rest of what you want for that item slot if you have to trade for it.

Anulls were pricey enough this league, betrayal needs some serious consideration on how it will be implemented to core.

Also nerf the xp in breach stones that was massive trash.

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Anonymous1749704 escribió:

Best way to deal with Betrayal is to make a proper character though, and not having a 4k life Tabula wearing badass run around in maps :L

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Huge fps dips around these guys as well

Really? Because I think Betrayal's Syndicate is one of the best league mechanics in a long time (better than Delve, Bestiary, and definitely Incursion).

If you throw yourself at it blindly, there is a lot of RNG. But if you learn the mechanics, there's quite a bit you can do to mitigate it. It's like crafting: The more you know about it, the better you can do. By messing with the relationships, research levels, and number of people per division, you can modify what encounters you get to optimize your chances of getting what you want.

That said, the reward structure and the encounters themselves do need some work. Right now, there's no incentive to do anything except Research and Intervention. Those two safehouses have had a huge guaranteed income stream for all of the league. Meanwhile, Transportation and Fortification are in a pretty sad state.

The worst part of the league IMO is a tossup between Bestiary and Incursion. They both feel pretty tacked on.

Incursion needed to be changed to reflect the lack of guaranteed encounters.

Bestiary lost the ability to target-farm beasts and while the crafting is useful, it feels pretty one-note.

I agree, I hate Betrayal. Think this might finally be the nail in the coffin for me :(

And it's not because I find it hard, playing dumb arc trapper that just kills them all no problem. It's just not fun in anyway shape or form, I don't play for market value, which I understand this league has a lot of, I play for fun.

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Anonymous1749704 escribió:

Best way to deal with Betrayal is to make a proper character though, and not having a 4k life Tabula wearing badass run around in maps :L

I have 6k life, 1.3k es, 1.3k mana with MoM, ele weak capped, Grace, and a ring that gives me 20% increased effect of Grace. Is that going to prevent invisible Syndicate members from attacking me? Is that going to prevent invisible attacks from visible Syndicate members? Or invisible ground effects? Is it going to reduce the visual clutter -- the absurd amount of shit that GGG keeps smearing on my screen -- preventing me from seeing what the hell is going on? It certainly didn't prevent a white archer from one-shotting me on a t9 map. My character build didn't prevent Research from appearing in the game for 70+ levels. It didn't keep the boss fight from resetting my entire Syndicate board making me not want to run the boss fight ever again. It doesn't stop inaccessible Syndicate encounters from appearing off maps. It didn't stop Fortification from crashing my game in Primordial Blocks until I ran out of portals, wasting a t15 map.

Jesus fucking Christ, how does my build affect any of this?! Syndicate members one-shotting players through adequate defenses is just a tiny sliver of the problems with Betrayal. It was a shit design from the ground up and implemented even worse.

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Anonymous1749704 escribió:

Best way to deal with Betrayal is to make a proper character though, and not having a 4k life Tabula wearing badass run around in maps :L

Hidden profile, LOL



Huge fps dips around these guys as well

4.3k hp

Let me rephrease

Four . three KAY hp what the fuck dude your made out of toilet paper