[3.27]The dirty Scorpion-Tail | Herald of Agony |Chaos-Cyclone-Scion|The Arachnophobia Allstars 226M

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Crosfade#5314 escribió:

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Chromino#4813 escribió:

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Crosfade#5314 escribió:

Hi, I just got a bigger drop(40div), was wondering what should be my next upgrade, 1st time trying out your build and probably doing everything wrong :D, but I lack dmg on bosses and bigger rares and dying only to chaos dmg cuz res is low, but I have no clue where could I improve, mby awakened gems or something else?

These days almost all equipment is already quite cheap in trade.

The more expensive milestones are:

+ a good watcher+s eye, 2/3 mods, es+life on hit.
+ rare boots unaffected by poison
+ small clusters 35% ncr effect + t-1 suffixes
+ 4W triad grips (sometimes overpriced and cheaper to craft)

I pretty much had all that and now I have even more, but I still feel like HoA dmg isn't enough and can't really understand why, I don't wanna bother you too much, but could you take a look at my character and tell me what's wrong with it and what am I doing wrong?

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Crosfade-5314/character/DirtyFug

I tried following the build guide to the best of my abilities; and I still had to change a hundred things to make myself live through maps and whanot. What I do not understand is that every single calculations is added in pob. They have animate guardian stuff without animate guardian skill gem (can swap out flesh and stone for it ig), they have 10 ascendancy points used instead of 8 (so that's also a bit of a dps loss)

After removing all of these calculations, I've got it down to the same amount of dps as I have.

Now, I've got no clue where this guy gets Consecrated Ground (Which in turn gives him more dps from Profane Ground - Lycia Bloodline); how he is able to press 6 buttons per boss fight to get another 30 mil dps, how he is getting endurance, power and frenzy charges, etc.

Keep in mind, all of these are active on the pob, so they have to come from somewhere?

I can see where the endurance charges come from (timeless jewel)
as for the second timeless jewel, no idea what it does because it doesn't show on pob. I'll check it later.

I was struggling a lot with physical max hit. This is obviously due to the fact that he has perfect gear on every slot and those are impossible to get without being a multimirrornare

This guy presses Despair + Assassin's Mark + Unearth (whatever the brand skill was that did this) + Prey (the single target skill gem linked to his 6l)

Also, I can't seem to find the +3-4 levels to HoA this guy randomly gets from somewhere. I have +11. I have the exact same gear (had, actually. I swapped out the Maata's Karui sceptre because it didn't impact my dps all that much)

I had to swap out Unearth + the brand + the spider spawner (which gives crit to minion) for a different skill to be able to keep my stacks up. Then, I was struggling with keeping up stacks again because CWC Cyclone took way too much mana to attack and there was no saving it (no mana on hit anywhere, even their own pob mana regen doesn't cover all the CWC casts required to get max virulences. So, idk!)

I changed to Storm Brand + Ball lightning of orbiting
and then I used Storm Burst + CWC + elemental Tornado of Turbulence + faster casting support

With this I can keep 85+ virulences barely.

Anyway, I don't see how I can make this build work (and don't understand how this guy tanked maven memory game, I'd fall over instantly) without multiple mirrors worth of currency.

Here is my pob. I also sent this guy a dm asking how they've done it all, but no response so far.

https://pobb.in/9oI3SZyYsxIy

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Lunabellle#4090 escribió:

I tried following the build guide to the best of my abilities; and I still had to change a hundred things to make myself live through maps and whanot. What I do not understand is that every single calculations is added in pob. They have animate guardian stuff without animate guardian skill gem (can swap out flesh and stone for it ig), they have 10 ascendancy points used instead of 8 (so that's also a bit of a dps loss)

After removing all of these calculations, I've got it down to the same amount of dps as I have.

Now, I've got no clue where this guy gets Consecrated Ground (Which in turn gives him more dps from Profane Ground - Lycia Bloodline); how he is able to press 6 buttons per boss fight to get another 30 mil dps, how he is getting endurance, power and frenzy charges, etc.

Keep in mind, all of these are active on the pob, so they have to come from somewhere?

I can see where the endurance charges come from (timeless jewel)
as for the second timeless jewel, no idea what it does because it doesn't show on pob. I'll check it later.

I was struggling a lot with physical max hit. This is obviously due to the fact that he has perfect gear on every slot and those are impossible to get without being a multimirrornare

This guy presses Despair + Assassin's Mark + Unearth (whatever the brand skill was that did this) + Prey (the single target skill gem linked to his 6l)

Also, I can't seem to find the +3-4 levels to HoA this guy randomly gets from somewhere. I have +11. I have the exact same gear (had, actually. I swapped out the Maata's Karui sceptre because it didn't impact my dps all that much)

I had to swap out Unearth + the brand + the spider spawner (which gives crit to minion) for a different skill to be able to keep my stacks up. Then, I was struggling with keeping up stacks again because CWC Cyclone took way too much mana to attack and there was no saving it (no mana on hit anywhere, even their own pob mana regen doesn't cover all the CWC casts required to get max virulences. So, idk!)

I changed to Storm Brand + Ball lightning of orbiting
and then I used Storm Burst + CWC + elemental Tornado of Turbulence + faster casting support

With this I can keep 85+ virulences barely.

Anyway, I don't see how I can make this build work (and don't understand how this guy tanked maven memory game, I'd fall over instantly) without multiple mirrors worth of currency.

Here is my pob. I also sent this guy a dm asking how they've done it all, but no response so far.

https://pobb.in/9oI3SZyYsxIy

Hey Lunabellle,

you have much too low 45% poisonchances instead guided 85-100% (in the pm you wrote, now still not enough in your newer pob).

Lesser poisonchances -> lesser HoA-virulences --> much lesser HoA-dps.

Further you should use a life-flask.
You have geared an unfitting amulet and weapon without much benefits.
Your anoint is not good chosen too, your 2 of 3 rare jewels also.
When you use melding, use a magic sapphire flask instead taste of hate.
You not use elegant hubris against dot?
You could switch magebane on sol to the passive on tree or better "entrench" and take divine shield or, a bit better killed and geared , glancing blows on sol.

Please read the spoilers "HoA step by step", "TL;Dr", "faq", the pob, the pob-notes, the HoA-skillgem mouseover, etc.

There 10 x times the mandatory needed poisonchances for HoA-virulences are explained in this guide, so you missed it 10x.
(I always try my best, but sometimes also me does not find his time for a individual guiding when the other don`t take his time to check the most central spoilers of the guide.
I was travelling a lot in RL and cannot answer each pm, sorry.)

In this league much auras, endu-carges, and curses are outsourced on spectres and AG.

For tanking the maven memory game (in 3.27 again easy to tank) take a look into "checklists stats" -> "flat dr", or into "ubers" -> "ubers oneshots", for HoA-levels into "HoA step by step", for endu-charges -> "spectres" on necro-page 100 or into "small clusters" etc. With some poe-experiences you find the stats also simply in the pob.

Please read the pob-configurations and the relating titled spoilers "The fellowship: spectres, ag etc.".

Also I cannot do all HoA-pob's at once, so the Necro-HoA-pob is ordinary optimized a bit earlier before the other ascendancies, sorry.

Budget is this league around 10 div for starting into t-17. Take a look at my necro-char "The Keeper of Worms", her budget is until now 10 div. Most expensive was the watcher`s eye 4 div, then ashes, the melding, div-cards for AG kingmaker, and determination-spectre-corpse was each 1 div too, everything else was only a few chaos. You did simply much things much different as this build does.

PoE is a complex game, and this build maxes some of the complex poe-mechanics.
Sorry, so of course you need a bit time to read the relating guidings.

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Chromino#4813 escribió:

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Lunabellle#4090 escribió:

I tried following the build guide to the best of my abilities; and I still had to change a hundred things to make myself live through maps and whanot. What I do not understand is that every single calculations is added in pob. They have animate guardian stuff without animate guardian skill gem (can swap out flesh and stone for it ig), they have 10 ascendancy points used instead of 8 (so that's also a bit of a dps loss)

After removing all of these calculations, I've got it down to the same amount of dps as I have.

Now, I've got no clue where this guy gets Consecrated Ground (Which in turn gives him more dps from Profane Ground - Lycia Bloodline); how he is able to press 6 buttons per boss fight to get another 30 mil dps, how he is getting endurance, power and frenzy charges, etc.

Keep in mind, all of these are active on the pob, so they have to come from somewhere?

I can see where the endurance charges come from (timeless jewel)
as for the second timeless jewel, no idea what it does because it doesn't show on pob. I'll check it later.

I was struggling a lot with physical max hit. This is obviously due to the fact that he has perfect gear on every slot and those are impossible to get without being a multimirrornare

This guy presses Despair + Assassin's Mark + Unearth (whatever the brand skill was that did this) + Prey (the single target skill gem linked to his 6l)

Also, I can't seem to find the +3-4 levels to HoA this guy randomly gets from somewhere. I have +11. I have the exact same gear (had, actually. I swapped out the Maata's Karui sceptre because it didn't impact my dps all that much)

I had to swap out Unearth + the brand + the spider spawner (which gives crit to minion) for a different skill to be able to keep my stacks up. Then, I was struggling with keeping up stacks again because CWC Cyclone took way too much mana to attack and there was no saving it (no mana on hit anywhere, even their own pob mana regen doesn't cover all the CWC casts required to get max virulences. So, idk!)

I changed to Storm Brand + Ball lightning of orbiting
and then I used Storm Burst + CWC + elemental Tornado of Turbulence + faster casting support

With this I can keep 85+ virulences barely.

Anyway, I don't see how I can make this build work (and don't understand how this guy tanked maven memory game, I'd fall over instantly) without multiple mirrors worth of currency.

Here is my pob. I also sent this guy a dm asking how they've done it all, but no response so far.

https://pobb.in/9oI3SZyYsxIy

Hey Lunabellle,

you have much too low 45% poisonchances instead guided 85-100% (in the pm you wrote, now still not enough in your newer pob).

Lesser poisonchances -> lesser HoA-virulences --> much lesser HoA-dps.

Further you should use a life-flask.
You have geared an unfitting amulet and weapon without much benefits.
Your anoint is not good chosen too, your 2 of 3 rare jewels also.
When you use melding, use a magic sapphire flask instead taste of hate.
You not use elegant hubris against dot?
You could switch magebane on sol to the passive on tree or better "entrench" and take divine shield or, a bit better killed and geared , glancing blows on sol.

Please read the spoilers "HoA step by step", "TL;Dr", "faq", the pob, the pob-notes, the HoA-skillgem mouseover, etc.

There 10 x times the mandatory needed poisonchances for HoA-virulences are explained in this guide, so you missed it 10x.
(I always try my best, but sometimes also me does not find his time for a individual guiding when the other don`t take his time to check the most central spoilers of the guide.
I was travelling a lot in RL and cannot answer each pm, sorry.)

In this league much auras, endu-carges, and curses are outsourced on spectres and AG.

For tanking the maven memory game (in 3.27 again easy to tank) take a look into "checklists stats" -> "flat dr", or into "ubers" -> "ubers oneshots", for HoA-levels into "HoA step by step", for endu-charges -> "spectres" on necro-page 100 or into "small clusters" etc. With some poe-experiences you find the stats also simply in the pob.

Please read the pob-configurations and the relating titled spoilers "The fellowship: spectres, ag etc.".

Also I cannot do all HoA-pob's at once, so the Necro-HoA-pob is ordinary optimized a bit earlier before the other ascendancies, sorry.

Budget is this league around 10 div for starting into t-17. Take a look at my necro-char "The Keeper of Worms", her budget is until now 10 div. Most expensive was the watcher`s eye 4 div, then ashes, the melding, div-cards for AG kingmaker, and determination-spectre-corpse was each 1 div too, everything else was only a few chaos. You did simply much things much different as this build does.

PoE is a complex game, and this build maxes some of the complex poe-mechanics.
Sorry, so of course you need a bit time to read the relating guidings.

20% poison on hit sceptre + 25% onhit from tree + 20% from tattoos + 20% from HoAg
is already 85%. I am able to keep all my stacks up, and I think I have more % somewhere; but I could be wrong. Anyway, I have at the very least 85% and I am able to keep up all of my virulence stacks.

My anoint is not good, yes. I used to have mana reserv until I needed more resists from amulet; so I swapped to it (not anoint, just new amulet - didn't have enough currency to swap it out). I definitely still have things to fix regarding the build. I also changed my skill tree at the same time, so a lot was happening. I didn't have enough to anoint Charisma.

I also have Endurance charges and Frenzy charges from spectre (I made this change after I was a bit bummed out about your guide and the post I made); and I have AG but I seem to have bad items or maybe because I'm using AGoS because it just dies, so I'll see what I can do about that later today.

I also swapped out chaos golem because it kept dying and honestly living is a much better option so I'm using Stone Golem instead.

I have elemental weakness (for friend) and despair on hit on my Animate Guardian (curses)

Glancing blows is a good idea, because I want to be able to block more; I wonder if with Svalinn it would be good to drop Glancing Blows...

"You have geared an unfitting amulet and weapon without much benefits."
The amulet I've already talked about, while the weapon gives me poison on hit and +1 level to HoAg. Because I don't use criticals (I don't understand how you use 5 skills per boss fight), I have no need for Maata's. When I checked my dps difference, it was actually higher with this new sceptre than Maata's.

" You did simply much things much different as this build does."
I followed your build as much as I could understand, tbh.
Your build guide is a little all over the place, one time it tells me svaalin is 8c; then another tells me use aegis, then your pob tells me to use something else, lol. It was kind of hard to get to this point.

I also prioritized breachlord over Path of ... ascendancy for the extra less dmg taken.

Edit: I forgot to add that because I added Endurance Charges, I swapped to Immortal Call (because pob told me it gives me more than vaal molten shell); I also added arctic armor to tank big hits, but I might swap this out to Frost Shield later.

"You not use elegant hubris against dot?"
I looked at Elegant Hubris (Timeless Jewel?) in the wiki and I can't see anything for dot on it.
I have jewels for bleed, so I'm immune to those. Flask for ignite.

I'll also read the guide regarding ubers and flat dr and make changes.

All in all, I thank you for replying.

Edit 2: I'm currently checking Glancing Blows on sol and my pob says it makes me take less damage (ehp goes lower)

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Lunabellle#4090 escribió:

All in all, I thank you for replying.

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I don't understand how you use 5 skills per boss fight

Yes, simply like guided in the build, eg arcanist brand for 3 triggered skills with 1 click.
The higher HoA-burst-damage above 300M needs 2 clicks more (i.e. against bosses push out like guided convocation, then switch to 1x desecrate + 1x arcanist brand spirit offering - assasin`s mark - despair, you can adapt that for more lazy autotriggering of course also further with the spectres, cursed ground, cwc or automation and like guided other trigger on top) and is solely needed against really though bosses or for faster speedfarming ubers. Everything else survives not long enough to feel the benefits of a bit slower generated HoA-power charges.
The default recommended lazy 1-button mapping-style reaches also somewhere around 200-300M dps and is more fun in and includes much more dps as needed in all maps.

The higher 500M - 1500M -pob's are named for a reason "ubers speedfarming with less qol", their needed 2x clicks more (not 5 like you guess) against ubers are reasonable when you focus on dps instead qol. They are not designed for qol-mapping like titled.

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I'm using AGoS because it just dies

You need of course resis on AG-gear and a life-flask of the necromancer. It`s guided in the AG-spoiler necro-page 100.
Only juiced t-17 ultimatums are rippy for AG or a few dark woods wisps-empowered-souleater-gigantic-titanic rogue exiles, or kosis wave 15 with weird mods - when you capped his resis.

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I also prioritized breachlord over Path of ... ascendancy for the extra less dmg taken.

Bloodline of Lycia is much stronger. But sanctum floor 4 is not good with HoA done, I recommend to flip to srs or totems for the needed completed sanctums (see 3.27 news necro-page 122).
Needed profane ground is triggered in the cwc - purifying flame of revelation all over the screen.

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I looked at Elegant Hubris (Timeless Jewel?) in the wiki and I can't see anything for dot on it.

There is always a lot different sources and types of dot in all content.
Elegant Hubris Supreme decadence recovers 2.4k es against all dot.
Recommended in t-17 etc.

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Edit 2: I'm currently checking Glancing Blows on sol and my pob says it makes me take less damage (ehp goes lower)

Yes, exactly. Pob-ehp is at first view decreased / lower with glancing blows (when you meant that).
The build has stacked already 95% flat damagereductions fullgeared, so at some gear-level in endgame the increased blockings are not effective because nonethelesss always only 5% of all taken damage is incoming. Effectivity of default fullblockings is only around 15-20% and less compared to glancing blows. Instead doubled es on block recovery and qol by tempestshield more triggered HoA-autobombing with glancing blows is in most content more valuable.