haste aura for summoners

I am a lvl 69 full summoner witch. I am currently running haste, clarity, wrath, and hatred with 8 zombies, 12 skellies and 2 spectres, all with minion life/dmg/speed.

I'm not 100% convinced of the value of haste aura. At its current level it gives 5% movement speed, 11% attack speed, and 10% cast speed. That should provide optimally a straight 11% boost to minion damage, but the 11% will be reduced in cases where my minions die frequently or they can't stand in one spot whacking on a target repeatedly.

Also the movement speed is probably handy for me to avoid trouble and helping the minions get to enemies faster.

The cast speed will help me in cases where I have to summon quickly.

All these things are certainly helpful, but are they worth the hefty amount of mana reserved plus the trouble of getting enough dex?

For that matter, is wrath worth it?

I welcome any suggestions on haste or other aspects of my build! Thanks

Wrath is absolutely worth it, and anger would be better than hatred, and reserve less mana.

As for whether haste is worth it, what you have to ask is what you would swap it for. The options are:

Vitality: keep your valuable spectres alive by passively healing them up between battles, so you don't have to hunt down new ones.

Determination: minions don't have much armor, so the % increase is not so great.

Purity: can significantly improve the survivability of your minions (and you if not maxed res)

Generally speaking, as a pure summoner, you should have EB, so you should be running pretty much every static-cost aura in the game, and then at least 2x %based auras on top of that. My personal preference for % based auras is vitality + purity, mainly because I don't like hunting for good spectres, so I want to keep the ones I have alive for as long as possible.

what do you mean by EB?

Eldritch battery. Converts your energy shield into mana so you can run a ridiculous amount of auras.

I don't like haste that much, its not worth those 40% mana reserve

I use purity, vitality and discipline because I want my minions to survive.

later on I may add Grace

I am a 3 spectre survivor witch, for more information please look here at my build! Gl and HF with your build =)

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/335777

I used haste for a long time, and after I dropped it i didn't even notice a change in dps. ITs not worth the dex upkeep either

best percentage auras are vitaility and purity for summoners for sure. Than stack your flat mana ones.

I think discipline is one of the most usefull aura for summoner, as minions benefits greatly from the flat ES bonus, because they are usually hit one-two times per battle, and the ES takes those hits, then regenerate for the next battle, so that you don't need vitality (or at least need it less).


I am currently using haste, and I am not really satisfied with it, it has a big mana reservation, a bit dext requirement, and the 5% IAS on zombie seems to do nothing. The only advantage may be for the specters, depending on your choice. On voidbearers it is quite nice.

Maybe use discipline instead or use vitality or purity. And swap ANGER for your Hatred. Its worth the damage.

lots of folks are saying swap out anger for hatred... I don't understand this, am I missing something?

Anger deals a flat additional amount of extra fire dmg, looks like ~50-80 dmg at the highest level.

Hatred deals an additional 15% of the physical dmg of a hit as cold dmg. Meaning, as your minions get stronger and hit harder, hatred deals more dmg as well.

Why not just run bolth?

I think in terms of percentage auras its better to go on the defensive since your minions can deal so much dps already. purity + vitaility, if your mana pool can handle it then hatred. other than that flat mana auras are easier to add on.

This is from experiences with running 72+ maps, the spectres you raise in these map levels have such godly base stats the best term to use is total annihilation lol. The best use of your auras is to protect them.