[3.26] Ice Dancing God - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

If your items are being destroyed, then you’re not using the Unpredictable mode. Predictable mode either combines the mods you chose onto the output item, or destroys both input items and gives no output. Unpredictable mode always produces an output item, but you have to play the odds (and game the system a bit to improve your chances).

I know your math about Icestorms says don't level Cast while Channeling above 15, but hear me out.

At a certain progression level (propably when you can afford the Heist Ring) your damage and Int will be high enough, that the loss of 1 or 2 Needles won't affect your Map-clearing at all.

If we then start to use Awakened Cast While Channeling lvl1, we gain Stun Immunity which will additionally frees up a Flask and gives us a Skillpoint.

Both which would allow us to get even more dmg/utility than the loss of that Needle.

@Necro -- don't we still need stun immunity for boss fights?

My experience with Bosses is that they are either very stationary and foreseeable, where the dmg of the selfcast Staff is so high that it doesn't really matter, or they are kinda agile and port around (Shaper/Eater/UberElder) that I rather want the Mapping Staff anyways, but your mind may vary.

Also in the past we actually used an Awakened CWC Staff for bossing.

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I know your math about Icestorms says don't level Cast while Channeling above 15, but hear me out.

At a certain progression level (propably when you can afford the Heist Ring) your damage and Int will be high enough, that the loss of 1 or 2 Needles won't affect your Map-clearing at all.

If we then start to use Awakened Cast While Channeling lvl1, we gain Stun Immunity which will additionally frees up a Flask and gives us a Skillpoint.

Both which would allow us to get even more dmg/utility than the loss of that Needle.

This has been the case for a while and is a case of "Theortical" just being worse than practical.

Especially considering that while channelign you are moving any way so the amount of icicles hitting is far more random and dictated by where you go to and if you need to truly focus them you weapon swap anyway.

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Necro#5866 escribió:

My experience with Bosses is that they are either very stationary and foreseeable, where the dmg of the selfcast Staff is so high that it doesn't really matter, or they are kinda agile and port around (Shaper/Eater/UberElder) that I rather want the Mapping Staff anyways, but your mind may vary.

Also in the past we actually used an Awakened CWC Staff for bossing.

Self-cast is 2-3X the damage. It's huge.

Against bosses, especially Ubers or juiced invitations, you cannot face-tank attacks and being stunned can be enough to die from the second attack.

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WinterHiko#1542 escribió:

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Necro#5866 escribió:

My experience with Bosses is that they are either very stationary and foreseeable, where the dmg of the selfcast Staff is so high that it doesn't really matter, or they are kinda agile and port around (Shaper/Eater/UberElder) that I rather want the Mapping Staff anyways, but your mind may vary.

Also in the past we actually used an Awakened CWC Staff for bossing.

Self-cast is 2-3X the damage. It's huge.

Against bosses, especially Ubers or juiced invitations, you cannot face-tank attacks and being stunned can be enough to die from the second attack.

The flask is already not really worth the investment for bossing anyway so Awakened CoC frees up a flask slot for mapping/bossing. Because in bossing like you said you're always using self cast anyway and pantheon + ES threshold stun is enough to not get chained stunned.

If you've seen the new Body Armour Empyrian just crafted...I think it'd be better than the Evasion/ES Body Armours. This thing is nuts. Also cost him a buttload of divines to craft though.

With similar investment how high can the Eva/ES body armour go? Or is it not worth it as a crusader item because we want to Eldritch implicits.

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Corazu#5976 escribió:

If you've seen the new Body Armour Empyrian just crafted...I think it'd be better than the Evasion/ES Body Armours. This thing is nuts. Also cost him a buttload of divines to craft though.

With similar investment how high can the Eva/ES body armour go? Or is it not worth it as a crusader item because we want to Eldritch implicits.

The thing about Escape Artist is that it adds energy shield *on top* of the innate evade chance you get from the armor's evasion rating. If you're going to sink currency into crafting top-end body armor, it's going to be hard to beat 3T1 overquality Necrotic Armor, which will give you ~850+4100/8 ~= 1350 ES *and* something like +25% evade chance.

+1 gems does very little for us. The influenced %int suffix of course is very good; the opportunity cost is ~15% less damage taken and your favorite exarch affix. The extra int only gives me 6% increased DPS in my POB so probably not worth it.

Hi, I also came to the whispering ice band wagon, sticking around with the build for 3rd league in a row.
I keep wondering tho how can i check my dps on PoB, is there any correct config for that, or all I can go by is how quickly shaper disapears?