[3.18] Gryph's Tank Simulator - A Detonate Dead Ignite Elementalist

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MillenniumDH escribió:
Question: If we take Spiritual Aid Notable on Passive Tree, does % increased minion damage also increase the damage of Detonate Dead, like % increased fire damage would?

Question is why you woudl want to do that,thats a lot of points and then you ned a ton of minion dmg nodes,the whole shtick here is to scale damage from corpse life levels with phantasmal unearth/spectres early.
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MillenniumDH escribió:
Question: If we take Spiritual Aid Notable on Passive Tree, does % increased minion damage also increase the damage of Detonate Dead, like % increased fire damage would?


yes.
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nayfear escribió:
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MillenniumDH escribió:
Question: If we take Spiritual Aid Notable on Passive Tree, does % increased minion damage also increase the damage of Detonate Dead, like % increased fire damage would?

Question is why you woudl want to do that,thats a lot of points and then you ned a ton of minion dmg nodes,the whole shtick here is to scale damage from corpse life levels with phantasmal unearth/spectres early.


I'm not doing it, DS Lily is doing it.

https://pastebin.com/P4iPy9d9
So Im thinking about starting this as a league starter.

What numbers can I expect from my ingites without phantasmal DD, no hands of the high templar, no empower, no amulet and no helm enchantment?

Just a plain old basic lvl 20 unearth?

Unearth corpses should have 38k HP at lvl 20 thats on a naked character with only a doryani's catalist and flammability+combustion+wave of conviction arcanist brand setup 400k ignite DPS.

Should be enough right? I remember starting mapping with less ignite dps.
Editado por útlima vez por Zerber#2188 en 12 may. 2022 15:31:30
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MillenniumDH escribió:
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nayfear escribió:
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MillenniumDH escribió:
Question: If we take Spiritual Aid Notable on Passive Tree, does % increased minion damage also increase the damage of Detonate Dead, like % increased fire damage would?

Question is why you woudl want to do that,thats a lot of points and then you ned a ton of minion dmg nodes,the whole shtick here is to scale damage from corpse life levels with phantasmal unearth/spectres early.


I'm not doing it, DS Lily is doing it.

https://pastebin.com/P4iPy9d9

Well i checkeced the pob,it seems it does increase her build is just different,she is using the focus craft/mod. Just all rares,no aegis aurora cheese,more life based.If you just compare dps you can see Gryphs is more tank based while she goes for more dps,thats all kinda.
The endgame PoB has 312000 corpse life.

I dont get how the build reaches that number?


Lvl 30 Unearth is 86583 HP base.
According to this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3244703

You can push the quality of Phantasmal Unearth to 82% with ashes of the star and Enhance. Thats 164% increased corpse life plus the 20% on tree its 184%.

Thats 245895 corpse life. The PoB uses lvl 31 Unearth but I doubt thats 60k extra HP. The Pob also doesnt use ashes of the star which means it has only a 52% quality unearth which means its corpse life is 193946 hp.

That would drop the ignite dps from 29 million down to roughly 18 million (19,5 million with ashes of the star).

Do I miss something? How does this build archive 312000 corpse life how is that number calculated? Even with necromancer ascendency which this build doesnt use you cant reach 312k corpse life.

Editado por útlima vez por Zerber#2188 en 12 may. 2022 18:44:14
SO this build or cremation?
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Zerber escribió:
The endgame PoB has 312000 corpse life.

I dont get how the build reaches that number?


Lvl 30 Unearth is 86583 HP base.
According to this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3244703

You can push the quality of Phantasmal Unearth to 82% with ashes of the star and Enhance. Thats 164% increased corpse life plus the 20% on tree its 184%.

Thats 245895 corpse life. The PoB uses lvl 31 Unearth but I doubt thats 60k extra HP. The Pob also doesnt use ashes of the star which means it has only a 52% quality unearth which means its corpse life is 193946 hp.

That would drop the ignite dps from 29 million down to roughly 18 million (19,5 million with ashes of the star).

Do I miss something? How does this build archive 312000 corpse life how is that number calculated? Even with necromancer ascendency which this build doesnt use you cant reach 312k corpse life.



Ah yeah, when I wrote the guide originally there was some debate on actual corpse life values.

But it ends up with level 95 corpses on Bone Archer, so start there. ;)

If my understanding is correct now,
Level 95 base life X 1.4(bone archer multiplier) x %increased corpse life.
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Zerber escribió:
The endgame PoB has 312000 corpse life.

I dont get how the build reaches that number

The end of this page starts doing corpse life calculations. I think I was on ~400k last league by the way, which is > 22m dps. The ~30m values are pre ignite nerf.

Editado por útlima vez por NoImagination#6952 en 13 may. 2022 0:38:13
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Gryphenprey escribió:

Ah yeah, when I wrote the guide originally there was some debate on actual corpse life values.

But it ends up with level 95 corpses on Bone Archer, so start there. ;)

If my understanding is correct now,
Level 95 base life X 1.4(bone archer multiplier) x %increased corpse life.


I guess in the end its not that important anyway because we talk about ignite numbers that are way beyond what you need to kill endgame bosses. I remember in scourge I started doing endgame stuff with 5 mil ignite dps on a wave of conviction build and it was more than enough.

Edit:
When you around 10 mil ignite dps the atlas passive node that gives monsters 25% less damage and 50% more life becomes a no brainer (yes I know it doesnt work with DD) because you have so much ignite dps that it doesnt matter and the node basicaly reads "you take 25% less damage"
Editado por útlima vez por Zerber#2188 en 13 may. 2022 5:21:28

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