(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

Cheap is definitely the wrong descriptor. Inexpensive is much more apt.
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AmirBan escribió:
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PailaiKRB escribió:
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AmirBan escribió:
Can you remove "CHEAP" from the title ? thanks.


It is cheap for ssf, Doing this in Gauntlet, end game is spendy but lots of dmg with minimal investment early maps. I found a reflect mod hidden in a map so I am starting again. Stop trying to be edgy.


No it's not, the clarity Watcher's Eye alone is 195 Exalted Orbs. without the end-game version which will cost you 100s more ex this build can not do much. calling it "CHEAP" is dishonest and is a lie. Stop acting like you are in a beehive and have to attack every signle word you don't like.

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The watcher's eye isn't required. The build is 100% viable without one.

I've been playing with a increased lightning damage while affected by wrath watcher's eye, you can buy one of those for 40 chaos, and I'm still pushing out 20 million DPS, which is enough to melt anything in the game.
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grimjack68 escribió:
The watcher's eye isn't required. The build is 100% viable without one.

I've been playing with a increased lightning damage while affected by wrath watcher's eye, you can buy one of those for 40 chaos, and I'm still pushing out 20 million DPS, which is enough to melt anything in the game.


This is my real account and started playing the game again 2 or 3 weeks ago. ok then, when i reached lvl90 i will come for you and you will fix me up :p also plz check my Witch, i'm going to use some of her stuff with this build, like her body armour etc...

btw, how people play trap ? it was impossible for me to even clear trash mobs early on, switched to BF/BB on level 40.
Editado por útlima vez por Amir_Ban#7559 en 17 jun. 2021 15:04:27




Having some fun trying to get my setup as optimal as possible before league ends (I'll be taking a hiatus afterwards to focus on career).

Improved a bit since 3 weeks ago: Just my gloves, belt, and amulet are still the same. Not sure if I can craft or buy any improvements at this point. Blind or Culling gloves would be cool, but it would be VERY hard to get a similarly high life/mana roll with it. My curse cluster applies Blind on cursed enemies anyway, and Culling Strike against cursed enemies.

Conductivity ring would be cool too. I'm barely res cap, with 76,75,78,-7 respectively, so the curse ring would need similar or higher resists, a hard ask, especially with comparable life/mana. My sceptre autocasts Conductivity every 4 sec.

I really like the cast socketed spell modifier on the weapon btw. Constantly placing Cold Sap terrain means I'm full frenzy when mapping, or pop Vaal Cold Snap to cap frenzy against bosses. It's not intuitive how the modifier works--one would think it casts one socketed spell every 4 seconds, but it's actually a 4 sec cooldown on *each* socketed spell, so having 3 of them is good.

Belt is just a pile of resists, considering how little resist is on the rest of my gear.

PoB says 120M dps with 40 blades (200M+ with RF+Vaal RF on), but we all know that's kind of overstated. If I'm running around to stay safe, I'm casting bfbb 1-2 times per sec, not the 5-6 times PoB assumes.

I took the 4 crit chance nodes near Annihilation instead of the AoE nodes to the right. It's important to keep Elemental Overload buff up, and neither of my weapons provide spell crit chance.
Editado por útlima vez por Xeeoph#6767 en 24 jun. 2021 1:35:41
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grimjack68 escribió:

I'd disagree with *false*. Folks on these forums prefer raw DPS numbers over complex calculations. If you join the discord, you'll notice the conversations there are all based on damage per hit, which is a far superior indicator of how well you're scaling damage.

4-8 million if you're playing SSF, maybe. If you're in trade league and have access to watcher's eyes, awakened gems, and good weapons, it's entirely possible to get more than enough damage to one shot single phase bosses. I'm not running particularly good gear, and I'm pushing 400k / hit. On large model bosses it's trivial to max out the 50 blades limit on blade blast, which puts me at 20 million per cast. I have enough mana and mana regen to support spamming it 3 times at need.

As for SSF viability, poe.ninja shows this as the #2 build on HCSSF, behind the Gladiator / Scion Exsanguinate setups, which might be technically 2 different builds, I haven't looked in the Gladiator variant. The Scion is great fun, and even better at Ultimatums than this, but doesn't have the raw DPS output this does for tough bosses. Or maybe I just didn't push it to a high enough level, or invest enough into the gear! ;)

Hilariously, I've dropped 3 cloaks this league, and zero essence worms. Good thing I play trade league. :D

The Maven fight is plain weird. In my experience, she's highly variable - some fights have been super easy, some were impossible. There's a learning curve as well, to say the least. Especially with builds like this that have a lot of ground level Fx that obscure the memory game indicators.

I'm not sure why you need a clarity watcher's eye for bossing. I do fine with my Wrath one. I'm not even convinced we need one - removing mine is a 7.5% drop in DPS, which doesn't seem game breaking.

I league started with this build, and I've used it to fund an exsanguinate build and an arc totem build. Both of those were fun for a few days, but I'm back to playing this and headed for level 100. I haven't decided if I want to grind out the full 40 challenges this league, but I might.


DPS means damage per second. If it is burst damage then that's different than sustained damage. Do you actually think it's 100M+ DPS? I've played insta-phase builds and this is definitely not there. Shaper has 74 million health. A BB/BF takes about a second to cast both. Even at 1 million damage per blade you wouldn't get there.

Basing a build on how a 1% God Gamer plays it was something I mentioned as false advertising. I watched that guy (I think) rip on Baran. But let me temper what I'm saying a bit. The build is good. I would just appreciate it if the build title wasn't hyperbolic to the point of being silly.
Been really enjoying this build throughout this league, thanks for the detailed guide. Reading the advice comments have definitely helped smooth out some areas of the build for me, in terms of gearing and gem choices :) (poe.ninja helped a fair bit too)

This is going to be the first build I take to 100 (75% progress from 99-to-100 rn), and I can see myself enjoying it in leagues to come.

Gear feels pretty comfortable right now. Swapped a few things around recently. Went with Replica Mistwall from the start, and played around with weapon-swap to 2 sceptres for more DPS. Even for bosses I generally just keep shield though.

Most recently dropped intensify for awakened increased area of effect, because it feels better for me, particularly in ultimatums.

Gear
Editado por útlima vez por lHobo#3646 en 2 jul. 2021 16:13:28
2 mod Watcher's Eye... very nice.

You're still running a corrupted blood flask though, and you have a corrupted blood immunity jewel.
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Ah yep, forgot bout that. kept from my other character and was concerned about regular bleeds for a bit. Thx for catching that.



Figured this might be okay to replace
Editado por útlima vez por lHobo#3646 en 3 jul. 2021 2:21:54
Hello,
the Clarity setup has the Clear Mind jewel in it as well. How does that work together?
HI,I want to play the build for 3.15 league start
may i ask a level skill tree about lighting trap?

The normal lighting trap skill tree seems need a lot of Orb of Regret change to BF/BB BD

thx for ur advice . good luck

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