give us a real ultimatum - nerf harvest or yank crusader explode

You know that mod is just nuts, and not only 3% is more than enough to turn any build in to a 1 min map faceroll, you allow it to elevate! Basically unless you are a glad, every other ascendency just can't really compete with that mod and map clear QoL unless perhaps it's some crazy herald build.

Come on. 99% of the videos on youtube that showcase a build basically slap on explode and it's almost as ridiculous as a HH. I'm in the camp that does not object to a HH since there is a significant cost to acquire it, but an explode chest is no where near the time and cost of a HH.

It's hard to sit back and watch you gut deterministic crafting in favor of pure gambling; arguing that harvest is the problem when there are far more egregious mechanics like explode. It use to be all these other good mods that ppl crafted their chest around (-mana, +skills, etc). and now it's just explode and whatever else you can get around it.

Reddit is also now packed with these new quad-elevated helmets. You feel that it is harvest still at fault or the fact that you created Maven's Orb that was completely unnecessary since the "normal" mods were already more than enough! These mods don't turn items in to your typical 10% power creep methodology (giving players something new league after league). They can literally blow the damage out of the water 25%+ per item!

Is harvest really the problem? I would say over the last 2 years we went from 1 - 2 million "shaper dps" as a benchmark to 10+ million to now 30 million and beyond? Those are not 10% thresholds.

Even if we close our eyes we can still see the the real cause of item and power creep progression/problem, and I don't think it's harvest. I mean if that's the direction you want your game to go in, that fine, but then come out and be frank about it.

Keep harvest as is and yank that mod from the game. I'll take that ultimatum. Keep harvest as is and kill both that mod and Maven's Orb. I'll take that ultimatum as well.

Honestly... crusader explode probably should and will get nerfed.
Imagine that the old crusader explode turns into the AoE buff and then you must elevate it to get Explode... Kinda like we had to do back in Synthesis with weapons (Light Radius OP OMEGALUL)

Yap, almost all modern attack builds revolve around that single affix.
Kinda wack.

It's kind of weird that they allowed this mod to trigger explosions with explosions, when a rational concern about what this would mean was literally the entire reason for Herald of Ice and Inpulsa explosions to not apply their related ailments.

GGG's balance team from today really should have a sit down with GGG's balance team from 4 years ago. I'm pretty sure they're the same people, but it's bewildering that they managed to get this so wrong AFTER getting it right twice.

ur still whining about harvest that's incredible

honestly, i hope they nerf the absolute fuck out of EVERYTHING, dose not matter to me if it's every single build that i've played or just in general...nerf it and nerf it hard, get the game that the devs wanted...not the shit that the players have gradually forced them into.

I leveled like 6 chars to 95+ in hc ssf this league. None of them used explode... It is a softcore crutch at most.

I imagine this is how Davos group must be like when they convene to fix the economy.

I'm sure you'll figure it out.

explody chest.. that mechanic was dumb from day 0.


it is the best mod in the game. sure, you can play without it, i do most of the time. but ANY build is better with it - simply because of corpse removal. in this game you fight one bs with different bs. corpse removal is one of the checkboxes any 'good' build has to tick

any 6*T0 chest that has no explode mod is better as 5*T0 + explode. heck, garbage 'post harvest' triple phys chests (reflect/phys as lightning/explode) is better than most if not all fancy unique armours.


will GGG nerf it? they didnt for 2+ years, why should they. aura stacking, minions, blade vortex and toxic rain are just as idiotic yet noone gives af

maybe the bb/bf combo will get a nerf, it is too much even for ggg's standards

but explody chest? they will change the weight from criminal '25' to '5' and call it a fix. they will fix it with rarity as always. rarity makes people play for longer after all

problem is - watching build guides nowadays is criminally boring. pretty much every single one is explody chest + single target trigger masked as a build.

they really should change it so that explosions cant trigger explosions, and probably reduce its aoe.


i dont think its either/or with harvest nerfs, you just nerf explode and you nerf harvest, and you nerf headhunter because all of those things are needed.