[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

Any thoughts on the build post-nerf, now that there's a couple of you with good progression? I did chaos skeletons occultist this league, which wasn't bad, but it got unpleasant to scale after a while. Thinking of going back to cold carrion next league, there's really nothing with the same "walk around while everything dies" QOL that I've experienced.
What's up Dead, do we think our cold carrion boys will be viable and super good as usual this league with it's changes?
I skipped the last few leagues but the only way I'd come back for this one is if I was playing this exact build, hope you'll find a way and have some time to make it work! Stay safe
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What's up Dead, do we think our cold carrion boys will be viable and super good as usual this league with it's changes?
I skipped the last few leagues but the only way I'd come back for this one is if I was playing this exact build, hope you'll find a way and have some time to make it work! Stay safe


The build should remain super strong. Really hard to nerf or outperform it since it just stacks minions ontop of eachother for higher efficiency.

I'm not personally gonna update this forum guide this league. Will most likely do it in the future. However, GhazzyTV which is a huge buildcreator and content creator on youtube is updating this buildguide.

He's going to release a Youtube video and written guide on PoEVault.
He's naming the build the Zoomancer which is this build with some changes made streamlining the build for a wider audience.

So if you're interested in playing an updated versio of this build, check out his youtube video when he releases it.

Compared to other metaminion builds like Poison SRS I think this build is better at higher budgets but slightly weaker at lower budgets due to how ridiculous poison scaling is with low investment. Poison dmg has a cap though so poison builds usually cap out at ~35 million dps while my build well goes above the 100 million mark with investment.

I finished 3.20 with this build:
https://pobb.in/VLjyi-iTAv14

I'm probably just gonna post a 3.21 league start PoB for how I'm gonna leaguestart and call it a day. Mainly because me and Ghazzy want to leaguestart the build differently. Personally, I'm leaguestarting the build as Occultist(Did it last league) because I think Profane Bloom explosions are cheating and just make the game too easy early on. Then I swap to Necromancer when I got my explodey AG setup.

Ghazzy thinks having builds that swap ascendencies midway between budgets et.c. makes the game harder for newer and casual players and I kinda agree. So his leaguestarter is running Necro all the way and focuses more on defenses with blockcap et.c. to give his followers a smoother and less rippy experience.

I personally focus more on speed, dps and clear so I can push harder content earlier and farm currency faster to hit the endgame faster.
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What's up Dead, do we think our cold carrion boys will be viable and super good as usual this league with it's changes?
I skipped the last few leagues but the only way I'd come back for this one is if I was playing this exact build, hope you'll find a way and have some time to make it work! Stay safe


The build should remain super strong. Really hard to nerf or outperform it since it just stacks minions ontop of eachother for higher efficiency.

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I'm probably just gonna post a 3.21 league start PoB for how I'm gonna leaguestart and call it a day. Mainly because me and Ghazzy want to leaguestart the build differently. Personally, I'm leaguestarting the build as Occultist(Did it last league) because I think Profane Bloom explosions are cheating and just make the game too easy early on. Then I swap to Necromancer when I got my explodey AG setup.

I personally focus more on speed, dps and clear so I can push harder content earlier and farm currency faster to hit the endgame faster.


I'd be very interested in your pob, I'm a sucker for this build, and I don't mind tinkering to find a middle ground between rippy and reapy; cod+portal op, etc.
Editado por útlima vez por Skazz_#4107 en 5 abr. 2023 9:41:01
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I'm probably just gonna post a 3.21 league start PoB for how I'm gonna leaguestart and call it a day. Mainly because me and Ghazzy want to leaguestart the build differently. Personally, I'm leaguestarting the build as Occultist(Did it last league) because I think Profane Bloom explosions are cheating and just make the game too easy early on. Then I swap to Necromancer when I got my explodey AG setup.


Do you just rush explodey with an uncorrupted gravebind and base chest with explodey as its only good mod?

Also how was minion survivability on uber bosses last league?

Thanks dead, I'm hyped to play this again.
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Deadandlivin escribió:


I'm probably just gonna post a 3.21 league start PoB for how I'm gonna leaguestart and call it a day. Mainly because me and Ghazzy want to leaguestart the build differently. Personally, I'm leaguestarting the build as Occultist(Did it last league) because I think Profane Bloom explosions are cheating and just make the game too easy early on. Then I swap to Necromancer when I got my explodey AG setup.


Do you just rush explodey with an uncorrupted gravebind and base chest with explodey as its only good mod?

Also how was minion survivability on uber bosses last league?

Thanks dead, I'm hyped to play this again.


Depends on how much you want to swap to necro or not. Personally, last leauge I stayed Occultist for a very long time farming about 300 divines before I swapped to Necro. Mainly because I'm lazy and Occultist was getting the job done.
It was pretty squishy though and I was hardstuck level 96 for the entire duration but didn't bother me.

To most people I suggest making a cheap explodey AG to start off.
That means uncorrupted Gravebinds, Inpulsa and a Redeemer helm for -9% cold res.
This is because the AG is kinda susceptible of dying early on when you don't have enough +1 levels from items. When you have +2 from helm and +2 from both your weapons or weapons + shield combo making your Anomalous AG level 24, I think it's enough for the cheap AG. Higher investment AG need atleast level 27 imo.

Uber bosses was fine for me. I did all of them. You want to swap Anomalous AG for Divergent AG when doing ubers.
My Zombies had 40k health and was my squishiest minion. The worst uber fight was Maven by far. Minions randomly dropped from getting shotgunned by GMP Meteors. Other than that all Uber fights were very easy to me.

Uber Eldritch bosses(White, Sirus and Cortex all died in a couple of seconds so didn't get to see much of the fights. Uber Shaper was hard to do deathless due to the ball phase. During Uber Uber Elder I just ran around in a circle like a headless chicken until they died.

Zombies died during Maven, Uber Shaper and Uber Exarch. Lost Golems to Maven aswell, not anyone else.
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I'd be very interested in your pob, I'm a sucker for this build, and I don't mind tinkering to find a middle ground between rippy and reapy; cod+portal op, etc.


This is how far I've come on the 3.21 League Start PoB.

https://pobb.in/KHKxIcXCqhvu

Only includes 3 arbitrary profiles for now, all for Occultist.
There's a setup for White, Yellow and Red maps.

Will add Necro profiles later.
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Deadandlivin escribió:
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I'd be very interested in your pob, I'm a sucker for this build, and I don't mind tinkering to find a middle ground between rippy and reapy; cod+portal op, etc.


This is how far I've come on the 3.21 League Start PoB.

https://pobb.in/KHKxIcXCqhvu

Only includes 3 arbitrary profiles for now, all for Occultist.
There's a setup for White, Yellow and Red maps.

Will add Necro profiles later.


Thanks man, that looks pretty awesome!

I've been fiddling a bit with trying to fit Dead Reckoning into a similar build (eyeing Ghazzy's Zoomancer too -- but like you said that one looks ... maybe a touch on the tanky side?), but so far no luck -- I'm either going full glass cannon or dropping dps because of dropping Zombies/physDmg, instead linking Skellies with e.g. Pierce, Spell Echo, Elemental Penetration, Controlled Destruction, and Minion Damage.

I feel like it should be doable, but my PoB Fu is weak, and it might land waaaay outside the scope of your build :)
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Deadandlivin escribió:
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I'd be very interested in your pob, I'm a sucker for this build, and I don't mind tinkering to find a middle ground between rippy and reapy; cod+portal op, etc.


This is how far I've come on the 3.21 League Start PoB.

https://pobb.in/KHKxIcXCqhvu

Only includes 3 arbitrary profiles for now, all for Occultist.
There's a setup for White, Yellow and Red maps.

Will add Necro profiles later.


Looks amazing. Quick question, how are you getting the third golem in your 3.20 final POB? I don't see an anima stone or anything that would otherwise give an additional golem beyond Golem Commander.
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Melonmonkey escribió:
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Deadandlivin escribió:
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I'd be very interested in your pob, I'm a sucker for this build, and I don't mind tinkering to find a middle ground between rippy and reapy; cod+portal op, etc.


This is how far I've come on the 3.21 League Start PoB.

https://pobb.in/KHKxIcXCqhvu

Only includes 3 arbitrary profiles for now, all for Occultist.
There's a setup for White, Yellow and Red maps.

Will add Necro profiles later.


Looks amazing. Quick question, how are you getting the third golem in your 3.20 final POB? I don't see an anima stone or anything that would otherwise give an additional golem beyond Golem Commander.


You mean my endgame build? I'm running an Anima Stone in it.

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