[3.24]The Arachnophobia Allstars|Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 50-150M

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Silenkurri escribió:

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Shaddrak escribió:

So I'm starting T11 and just went CI, this is the Balaar builder guy. I don't know what to use inplace of Arakali since it's really expensive. I have the boots, helmet, and shield and 6L random armor and also bought a Nostalga ring for 15C with agony buff and damage on it. But what do I use in place of the weapon since I deal elmental dmage with stormbrand?

Use Cold Iron Point Dagger for the +3 to Physical Spell Gems

Check page 50. You should find something interesting there.

Guys, there is hope for us. Arakaali dropped a little (but not too much...), but Aegis went down by around ~30c, there is more Skin of the Loyal (people are farming Chay for amulet), nostalgia is dropping. And there is a lot more anomalous Ball Lightning on the market.

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Fukurokage escribió:

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Silenkurri escribió:

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Shaddrak escribió:

So I'm starting T11 and just went CI, this is the Balaar builder guy. I don't know what to use inplace of Arakali since it's really expensive. I have the boots, helmet, and shield and 6L random armor and also bought a Nostalga ring for 15C with agony buff and damage on it. But what do I use in place of the weapon since I deal elmental dmage with stormbrand?

Use Cold Iron Point Dagger for the +3 to Physical Spell Gems

Check page 50. You should find something interesting there.

Guys, there is hope for us. Arakaali dropped a little (but not too much...), but Aegis went down by around ~30c, there is more Skin of the Loyal (people are farming Chay for amulet), nostalgia is dropping. And there is a lot more anomalous Ball Lightning on the market.

Nice! Now we just need another 60ex for that and the rest of the gear!

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Shaddrak escribió:

So I'm starting T11 and just went CI, this is the Balaar builder guy. I don't know what to use inplace of Arakali since it's really expensive. I have the boots, helmet, and shield and 6L random armor and also bought a Nostalga ring for 15C with agony buff and damage on it. But what do I use in place of the weapon since I deal elmental dmage with stormbrand?

Hi Shaddrak!

Let's sting!

It's like Silenkurri writes, +3 Cold Iron point dagger or +1/+2 triggerwands are nice and offer high damage.

Take a look into "Tipps for levelling", there is a spoiler "spiders, speed and withers" about. Generate withers best with anomalous withering step or vaal skeletons with withering touch for another high damage buff too and use 5 minions for the onslaught buff (phantasms, absolution or skeletons etc.)

On page 50 you find more alternatives:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705/page/50

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erve78 escribió:

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4) For HoAg-damage use also already additional ball-lightnings in the storm-brand set-up for more virulences.

does it worked together?
or i need use one button for brand storm and ANOTHER for ball-lightnings?

yes, you need 2 buttons for full 40-60 virulences. Take a look in "gear, skills, kinks", section gloves, there are all set-ups for max virulences and max hoAg-damage.

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Sevbii escribió:

Hello, I've been enjoying this build and managed to flip quite a few ex on archnemesis SC to get most of the endgame gear. I am just missing a few things right now because there are very few on the market (aul's uprising with grace, efficient large cluster jewels, level 6 awakened gems, alternate qualities). The dps seems ok at 60 stacks and with all spiders, but I found that I am too squishy to facetank some end game bosses and so I can't get 60 stacks or respawn spiders constantly and lose most of my dps trying to dodge mechanics.

Here's my POB: https://pastebin.com/WHV84g5j

Other than getting getting aul's uprising (no one's selling them!), what can I do to improve?

I played another guardian HoAg build in Metamorph league with 24k ES, capped block 40k armour, before they nerfed Shaper's touch and I was able to facetank everything in the game absolutely no problem. However this build currently feels much squishier (although better dps and clear).

Hi Sevbii,

I checked the pob. Your gear and tree are great!

You balanced much into damage with lvl 88 and 10M damage. Around lvl 94, 95 with a divergent HoAg lvl 21 the chaos-conversion-edition is more easy to use with passives for whispers of doom's curse-mastery and poison-chance. When you want more tankyness I advice to:

- activate "grace" easy with small clusters sublime form and self-control (or es-mastery discipline-efficiency minimum) and/ or amulet "ashes of the stars" instead aul's uprising. On page 50 next to the amulet is the complete workaround listed and you find a tree about in the pob ("mapping lvl 90 before aul's uprising")

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705/page/50

- only with grace balance 4 passives into "ghost dance" for more recovery

- upgraded soul of solaris is best against crits and ailments. A bad row of crits or critical ignites can kill you without

- alternate gemqualities raises your tankyness and damage too:



- your es is with 6k a little bit too low for multiple t16 mods, get a bit more with passives "influence", "sanctum of thoughts" or "essence surge" or a rare unset ring with despair and whispers of doom, watcher's eye etc.

- phantasms or frostwalls (see spoiler "lvl 100") offer a lot tankyness too

- for virulences and damage with white triad gripes a "Divergent" HOA for 40% poisonchance and 20% poisonchance of cursemastery whispers of doom is best and needed for singletarget.

lol 60ex..Does make me wonder why I decided on this build, the most EX I've had during a league is 4ex and felt I got really lucky.

I'll have to check that leveling section and make smaller goals.

Yeh lol, kinda like that. Im wonder how some ppl can have such a great gear like at 4th day since start, its really crazy :D

Where do get your maths and your prices?

I count for 10M damage, 6M ehp, almost b.i.s. - gear around 10-15 exalts or even less. For 5 M damage and 4M ehp I count around 5 exalts.

Arakaali's is expensive, but almost all other gear like empower, skin of the lords, helmets, clusters, good amulets, strong watcher's eyes, awakened gems etc. dropped in prices and relations overall very relaxed for leaguestart.

Thank you for the quick reply on my last post. I hope I'm not a hindrance to you lol. I made some improvements based on your advice. I haven't done everything yet, but I want to know how I did so far.

POB: https://pastebin.com/h5FdsRrx

I got the helmet, shield and a 5l body armour. Not sure what exactly I'm supposed to socket in it, because I feel that moving HoAg from gloves to body won't change much because of the level 20 vile toxins. For aura I chose grace, because it was easier to get gear with evasion. The cluster jewel is also for improving the mana reservation of it. I chose belt with a lot of dexterity because I needed it for the body armour. The Nomad belt also gives more projectile damage if I have 200 dexterity, which I thought was handy. For curses I'm trying to use Hextouch support-ball lightning-enfeeble-despair.

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Daerkenn escribió:

I got the helmet, shield and a 5l body armour. Not sure what exactly I'm supposed to socket in it, because I feel that moving HoAg from gloves to body won't change much because of the level 20 vile toxins. For aura I chose grace, because it was easier to get gear with evasion. The cluster jewel is also for improving the mana reservation of it. I chose belt with a lot of dexterity because I needed it for the body armour. The Nomad belt also gives more projectile damage if I have 200 dexterity, which I thought was handy. For curses I'm trying to use Hextouch support-ball lightning-enfeeble-despair.

Buy any 6L-armor instead of 5L. Corrupted ones are cheaper, just find a good gem-color-setup for you.
I use 3G-2B-1R
Greens: HoAg + Vicious Projectiles + Pierce
Blues: Minion Damage + Summon Phantasm (phantasms are okay-ish until you get dagger)
Red is Damage on Full Life.



In this setup I hit red maps and, actually, can farm t11-t12 easily, just need to craft some big clusters to progress further. My setup is way under 10ex. Maybe 5 or something.

First game-changing thing you can get is Aegis Aurora.



You can immediately switch to CI after getting this thing and have about 74-75 level. It was the first "big" item I've got and it actually (I mean it) changes surviviability. It's not cheap, but not as expensive as daggers nowadays.

Remember — HoAg is your main source of damage. Not ball lightnings or storm brand (you shouldn't even level them, leave them 1st level cause of mana usage). They just poison things around which causes virulences to generate. At start we use 2 medium clusters with Pure Agony (really cheap, and even cheaper to craft it by yourself) to extend maximum virulences from 40 to 50. And virulences buffs damage of your agony crawler.
We try to stack +levels for this gem because every level heavily buffs crawler's damage.
It can one-shot 2 screens with one attack in endgame.

After CI we use The Golden Rule gem to generate virulences even faster just to poison ourselves. Poison is chaos damage and with CI we're immune to chaos, but not immune to have this debuff — it tries to damage us, but can't. So we actualy poison ourselves to be much more effective :D

I don't use second curse, just Sniper's Mark on bosses, so don't have despair and nodes for second curse (free points, yay!). Actually I still wear one ring from 3rd or 4th act...

Armor felt better than evasion during levelling for me, so I used Determination, not Grace. If you feel squishy, try it — because we use some points in tree to buff armor, but none to buff evasion.

My setup is still in progress and its not optimal (ex.: I use empower here not to buff sniper's mark, it's just gem-levelling :D + I still use life-flask but don't actually need it )

But you can try to use it. Btw those boots are really cheap and good for this build.

I use Replica Advancing Fortress too, but just to get rid of Glancing Blows. You want to fully block things actually, not just half of them. After getting Aegis Aurora you can try to switch off this nod, it'll defnately feel better.