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Pip_n_Tip escribió:
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x Peleus x escribió:


Dang what the gem is lying to me.

Well anyways I like them around.
They are doing the job I want them to.

Can't really add Stone Golem in as of right now.

Going to stick with what I got for now. I hit level 88 last night.
My 2nd highest so far playing PoE. I hope to make this the highest leveled build I have.

I did a t11 map last night no issues at all. Just made sure I was always moving. ABM, Always be moving!



Last league, my first necro, purty sure I spent half an hour staring at my screen, clicking my golem on & off looking at my zombie's life trying to figure out why my zombie's life wasn't increasing.
I mean, how hard is to just put 'this minion' on those gems.

Zombie on!
I agree.
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Foogalicious escribió:
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Pip_n_Tip escribió:
@foogalicious,

You do not have Hatred linked to Generosity. So when your ball lightning kicks off and procs Ele Eq...it's doing you no good because YOU just hit them with cold damage (via Ball Lightning + Hatred).


Thanks for looking into my build Pip! But I have a big but... (I have a big butt too, but that's neither here nor there right now) Here is my concern: I thought hatred only added cold to physical attacks, so that my ball lightning would safely do lightning damage only. At least that was what I got from my reading of the gem descriptions. Is there any way to check and see whether El.EQ. is proc'ing with the ball lightning just to be sure? I'd hate to use up a gem slot for generosity, as well as re-colouring and rearranging things if it is not needed.


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Don't link your carrion golem to minion life. It's a waste.

Funny you should mention that. I had come to the same conclusion, which is what led me to wonder what other kind of golem I could use in the glove slot that dumping minion life would free up. And if I can get away with not using generosity, I may just do that still.


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You may want to consider self-clicking ball lightning if you are getting slapped around. This way you can stand back and cast and activate Ele Eq so your minions can get the buff without you having to take damage first.

Funny you should mention that too! I was daydreaming about poe at work today and thought maybe I should just set ball lightning to cast with the scroll wheel press so I could stand out of harm's way if I wanted to, as well as to free up a gem slot.

But now you have me all frazzled with this ball lightning + hatred causing cold damage worry. So I'm just going to sit on everything until I can get confirmation that yep, that's a thing and I need to deal with it!

Once that's all ironed out, I'm going to try dumping both my minion life supports like you suggest (some maps with truly evil mods kill my zombies, but they seem to survive most things pretty well) and get a multistrike and maybe even splurge on an empower that's already been leveled up.


edited to add: whelp, I'm an impatient soul and mucked about with my set-up even before getting an answer. I went and dumped both minion life supports. Then I set up the hatred/generosity support link in my gloves, (figuring it'll be good even if I end up NOT needing it to keep my ball lightning strictly lightningy ...lightning-ish?) I moved my carrion golem to the body armour and linked him up with zombies so he can get all that nice support gem action, and added multistrike in place of elemental army support. All of which all left me with an extra slot for my new stone golem. Time to go level these babies up and see if Drox will f*ck me up more gently next go-round. I am still curious regarding whether the generosity support link to the hatred aura was absolutely necessary or not, though.



Zombie on, rawr!
Hey Foogalicious!

Generosity is for the original guide setup where we as the player deal no damage. Generosity is simply a good damage boost to Hatred. If you've modified the guide in any way it's up to you how valuable Generosity is. But if you remove it, you'll want to remove EE from the tree unless you're SURE you are dealing no cold damage. EE is a big part of this build's offence.

Zombie On.
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Editado por útlima vez por Wrecker_of_Days#7691 en 25 ene. 2020 16:04:37
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Pip_n_Tip escribió:
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Foogalicious escribió:

Thanks for looking into my build Pip! But I have a big but... (I have a big butt too, but that's neither here nor there right now) Here is my concern: I thought hatred only added cold to physical attacks, so that my ball lightning would safely do lightning damage only. At least that was what I got from my reading of the gem descriptions. Is there any way to check and see whether El.EQ. is proc'ing with the ball lightning just to be sure? I'd hate to use up a gem slot for generosity, as well as re-colouring and rearranging things if it is not needed.


Ya' know, that's a good point.
I would link it to generosity anyway but like TheGangsta says...try going out to an easy area without minions and casting Ball and mouse over the mob and see what it says. I have never tried that.
When you mouse over the Ball Lightning skill tooltip with/without Hatred does it say anything about added cold damage?

I thought Hatred would a dash of cold damage to any of your attacks/spells no matter what.

Play it safe and link it to generosity anyway IMO. But I'm gonna go log onto my W_o_D (this build) char and check it out.

Also, don't play evil maps. Reroll 'reflect phys or ele" & no +crit multipliers. That kills anybodys zombies. Not just yours.


EDIT: Back from checking this out. I think you are correct. Ball Lightning does NOT transmit any cold damage since there is no physical damage to convert. HOWEVER, :) I would link it to Generosity anyway due to the huge buff Generosity gives Hatred.

Good to know. Thank you.
Sweet Pip_n_Tip!

Good job! Yup, Hatred only improves upon physical damage. So if a skill doesn't start off with any physical damage (before conversions and such) Hatred won't apply to the skill.

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Editado por útlima vez por Wrecker_of_Days#7691 en 25 ene. 2020 16:07:38
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Foogalicious escribió:
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Pip_n_Tip escribió:
Ele Army good with this build since we are using EE and Hatred. Or at least it is much, much better than having Carrion Golem there.

And how! I shuffled the golem out of there and re-inserted the EE. Plus linked generosity to Hatred to improve the buff on the zombies. End result is I am cutting through mobs at a noticeably faster rate now. Even more so after buying a good convoking wand.

I just got Drox hideout back up and am going to give it a go. We'll see if the improvements are enough or whether I need to bump up some more of my gear.


edited to add: I only died once when I got distracted by my phone, and after respawning I kicked his candy ass! RAWRRR!


Zombie on!
Good job Foogalicious! Checking your phone is always worth a death ;). Nice kill.

Zombie On.
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Intensiti escribió:
do you guys think replacing the ball lightning curse set up for a 4 link spectre set up could work?

if so what would you 4 link spectres with?
Hey Intensiti!

If you did remove Ball Lightning, you'd have to find a way to apply Elemental Equilibrium. YOU have to do the lightning damage for it to proc...other minions can't initiate it...if you were going to keep EE that is.
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Foogalicious escribió:
Hi folks!

Just wanted to make sure that if I make my ball lightning a manual cast and link it up with the curse on hit plus the enfeeble, it will proc enfeeble on any target hit by the ball lightning, right? Even if I go ahead and max out the ball lightning gem, right?

Here's the set up:
Correct. That setup that you posted will work perfectly. Enfeeble will be applied to every enemy Ball Lightning hits. So max away.
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You're all the best. Thanks for being so great to each other.

(Next league I'm trimming back down to 4 guides so my replies are more frequent. Sorry for the long delay between replies.)
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Wrecker_of_Days escribió:
You're all the best. Thanks for being so great to each other.

(Next league I'm trimming back down to 4 guides so my replies are more frequent. Sorry for the long delay between replies.)


Do you know yet which of the builds (aside from the one you already cut) is getting the axe?
Knowledge is power.
Power corrupts.
Stay stupid.
My guess would be
Zombies (Zombie On!)
Curse vortex (black hole creating fun)
Trigger happy (mobs kill themselves)
RF (god mode)

Those 4 are all perfect league starters, fantastic to run to end game too and even if you want to min max they don't go into crazy amounts of chaos/exa's


Haven't played much for past few weeks xmas, work etc... but still lurking and loving all the discussion in this thread

Wrecker your a legend with all you do for the players 🙃
~ If it moves, kill it ~
Guys, I need you help once again.

Which helmet is better:



Vaal skeletons, Minion damage, Minion Life and Infernal Legion gems

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with Vaal skeletons, Minion Life, Immolate, Infernal Legion.

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Which one gives more potential damage? 2 supports on Elder helmet or +2 to level of socketed minion gems on Bone helmet?

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