[3.15] Spectral Shield Throw Bleed Gladiator - tanky & fast mapping - good scaling - all content

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Kalithas escribió:

Do you guys think the endgame body armor goal is still the rare chest with the mana cost reduction and high life etc ?

I think this is what I'm going to do. I'm running into single target mana issues even with mana leech on 2 jewels and the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" craft on a ring. Oddly enough, I've found that killing fully juiced metamorphs is actually easier for me than some of the map bosses, since I can rely on the metamorphs spawning enemies for me to leech mana from. Map bosses that rarely spawn enemies really suck for me to kill (especially some conquerors!), because if I miss click once, or a couple of my shield throws miss due to having < 100% accuracy, I'll basically be out of mana and won't be able to cast another SST unless I wait for the regen or use a mana potion.

Mana is a huge issue for me right now, and from my experience, the mana leech from the Lioneye's chest combined with the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" ring craft is NOT enough to sustain mana. I'm going to try a chest piece with the "Socketed attacks have -15 to mana cost" affix on it and see how that goes.

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Squatch escribió:

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Kalithas escribió:

Do you guys think the endgame body armor goal is still the rare chest with the mana cost reduction and high life etc ?

I think this is what I'm going to do. I'm running into single target mana issues even with mana leech on 2 jewels and the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" craft on a ring. Oddly enough, I've found that killing fully juiced metamorphs is actually easier for me than some of the map bosses, since I can rely on the metamorphs spawning enemies for me to leech mana from. Map bosses that rarely spawn enemies really suck for me to kill (especially some conquerors!), because if I miss click once, or a couple of my shield throws miss due to having < 100% accuracy, I'll basically be out of mana and won't be able to cast another SST unless I wait for the regen or use a mana potion.

Mana is a huge issue for me right now, and from my experience, the mana leech from the Lioneye's chest combined with the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" ring craft is NOT enough to sustain mana. I'm going to try a chest piece with the "Socketed attacks have -15 to mana cost" affix on it and see how that goes.

Yes, but does it worth it tho? How well does sst single target scale with a better shield once you have that chest armor, let's say 2700+ armor shield. I have no idea tbh o.O

My experience so far is that metamorphs are going down fast once they spawn their adds. I have only 4 watchstone conquerors left, I have not tried to kill any of them with this build.

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Squatch escribió:

I think this is what I'm going to do. I'm running into single target mana issues even with mana leech on 2 jewels and the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" craft on a ring. Oddly enough, I've found that killing fully juiced metamorphs is actually easier for me than some of the map bosses, since I can rely on the metamorphs spawning enemies for me to leech mana from. Map bosses that rarely spawn enemies really suck for me to kill (especially some conquerors!), because if I miss click once, or a couple of my shield throws miss due to having < 100% accuracy, I'll basically be out of mana and won't be able to cast another SST unless I wait for the regen or use a mana potion.

Mana is a huge issue for me right now, and from my experience, the mana leech from the Lioneye's chest combined with the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" ring craft is NOT enough to sustain mana. I'm going to try a chest piece with the "Socketed attacks have -15 to mana cost" affix on it and see how that goes.

I imported your character as your mana problems really got me curious.

Your second mana leech jewel is doing nothing. In my pob your capped on your mana leech (20% = 133) even with one jewel. So you could get Mana on Hit here.

You could optimize the ring craft from -7 to -9 and also use it on the 2nd ring.

Currently without those changes and without the chest your SST cost 23 mana. Even with all buffs and let's say spamming 4 Attacks per Second you consuming under 100 mana.

Leech + Reg is > 150 mana. So for me that sounds like a good buffer. Pretty strange that you have so much issues :(

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Kalithas escribió:

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Squatch escribió:

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Kalithas escribió:

Do you guys think the endgame body armor goal is still the rare chest with the mana cost reduction and high life etc ?

I think this is what I'm going to do. I'm running into single target mana issues even with mana leech on 2 jewels and the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" craft on a ring. Oddly enough, I've found that killing fully juiced metamorphs is actually easier for me than some of the map bosses, since I can rely on the metamorphs spawning enemies for me to leech mana from. Map bosses that rarely spawn enemies really suck for me to kill (especially some conquerors!), because if I miss click once, or a couple of my shield throws miss due to having < 100% accuracy, I'll basically be out of mana and won't be able to cast another SST unless I wait for the regen or use a mana potion.

Mana is a huge issue for me right now, and from my experience, the mana leech from the Lioneye's chest combined with the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" ring craft is NOT enough to sustain mana. I'm going to try a chest piece with the "Socketed attacks have -15 to mana cost" affix on it and see how that goes.

Yes, but does it worth it tho? How well does sst single target scale with a better shield once you have that chest armor, let's say 2700+ armor shield. I have no idea tbh o.O

My experience so far is that metamorphs are going down fast once they spawn their adds. I have only 4 watchstone conquerors left, I have not tried to kill any of them with this build.

Try import my character, i have a 2800 armor shield, a chest with -15 mana and a mana leech ring. I killed 3 times sirus, all the conquerors, elder and shaper

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Try import my character, i have a 2800 armor shield, a chest with -15 mana and a mana leech ring. I killed 3 times sirus, all the conquerors, elder and shaper

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not here to say that the build is bad or anything. I have played two leagues so far, so my knowledge of the game is still not there. However I understand that for endgame, single target damage is somewhat crucial this league. Also I got some extreme luck with cards and currency, I got around 17ex to spend right now (avg. ex I made in a league is like 3 or 4)

So I'm just kind of puzzled if I should pump all my currency in this build or try a slayer cyclone build for example. I would like to kill bosses, and doing the endgame by myself would be cool.

Right now spectral shield throw on poeninja is at 0.1% , so beyond this thread there is nowhere to look for more information. And therefore I appreciate all your help and advice.

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Kalithas escribió:

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Try import my character, i have a 2800 armor shield, a chest with -15 mana and a mana leech ring. I killed 3 times sirus, all the conquerors, elder and shaper

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not here to say that the build is bad or anything. I have played two leagues so far, so my knowledge of the game is still not there. However I understand that for endgame, single target damage is somewhat crucial this league. Also I got some extreme luck with cards and currency, I got around 17ex to spend right now (avg. ex I made in a league is like 3 or 4)

So I'm just kind of puzzled if I should pump all my currency in this build or try a slayer cyclone build for example. I would like to kill bosses, and doing the endgame by myself would be cool.

Right now spectral shield throw on poeninja is at 0.1% , so beyond this thread there is nowhere to look for more information. And therefore I appreciate all your help and advice.

My build now is around 27/28 exa (got lukcy too with a drop of awakened multistrike).
Scaling SST is harder than other skills in my opinions so with the same cost or less you can make a build with a lot more dps

To add on that I think that my build is pretty maxed out right now except for leveling awakened gems. The best upgrade has certainly be the -15 chest. I've looked for the best options there when it comes to powerfull mods from the new crusaders. I've settled for the consecrated ground while stationary mod and damn it's been a blast. That actually helps a ton vs degens because my life regen has increased tremendously. I am a tank it all kinda person that mostly just presses the SST buttons and prays the block does the heavy lifting unless fighting certain maps (SC that is ;))

Together with my new belt that makes me immune to ignite, pantheon for poison immunity that leaves me with just the ground degens but the life regens neutralises a lot. The -15 on chest + -9 on ring leaves me with a 3 mana cost SST eventually. I am planning to link the SST to awakened unbound ailments again and link the Maim to Flesh and Stone. Running 4 aura's. (Flesh and Stone, Pride (enlighten lvl 3 both) and vulnerability + spider's aura. Linking maim to flesh and stone in blood stance triggers the -14 on increased physical damage taken.

The question whether or not this character was worth the investment (around 25ex or something) is still a hard one. I think there are way cheaper meta builds that destroy the content easier. But this character has been a blast and I would seriously consider building this one again. The last upgrade for me is the shield where I want a 2900+ one.

Edit: My jewels can actually be increased because I don't have the best ones out there, but that's a costly upgrade process again. It will add 8k dps again if I replace all four with the correct ones. Which is again 64k with crimson dance so might be worht. But overall it's impossible to scale this build over 1,5 mil dps.

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paLe1337 escribió:

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Squatch escribió:

I think this is what I'm going to do. I'm running into single target mana issues even with mana leech on 2 jewels and the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" craft on a ring. Oddly enough, I've found that killing fully juiced metamorphs is actually easier for me than some of the map bosses, since I can rely on the metamorphs spawning enemies for me to leech mana from. Map bosses that rarely spawn enemies really suck for me to kill (especially some conquerors!), because if I miss click once, or a couple of my shield throws miss due to having < 100% accuracy, I'll basically be out of mana and won't be able to cast another SST unless I wait for the regen or use a mana potion.

Mana is a huge issue for me right now, and from my experience, the mana leech from the Lioneye's chest combined with the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" ring craft is NOT enough to sustain mana. I'm going to try a chest piece with the "Socketed attacks have -15 to mana cost" affix on it and see how that goes.

I imported your character as your mana problems really got me curious.

Your second mana leech jewel is doing nothing. In my pob your capped on your mana leech (20% = 133) even with one jewel. So you could get Mana on Hit here.

You could optimize the ring craft from -7 to -9 and also use it on the 2nd ring.

Currently without those changes and without the chest your SST cost 23 mana. Even with all buffs and let's say spamming 4 Attacks per Second you consuming under 100 mana.

Leech + Reg is > 150 mana. So for me that sounds like a good buffer. Pretty strange that you have so much issues :(

Looks like you imported my character when I was in the middle of re-configuring everything. I no longer have mana issues.

I bought a 6L chest for 2ex that has the -15 to mana cost affix on it. Combine that with a single mana leech jewel and that's all I really need to run Pride, a banner, aspect of the spider, and precision. I haven't tested removing the master crafted -mana cost ring yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't needed anymore. All good on the mana front now after that chest piece. Awesome build!

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Squatch escribió:

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paLe1337 escribió:

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Squatch escribió:

I think this is what I'm going to do. I'm running into single target mana issues even with mana leech on 2 jewels and the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" craft on a ring. Oddly enough, I've found that killing fully juiced metamorphs is actually easier for me than some of the map bosses, since I can rely on the metamorphs spawning enemies for me to leech mana from. Map bosses that rarely spawn enemies really suck for me to kill (especially some conquerors!), because if I miss click once, or a couple of my shield throws miss due to having < 100% accuracy, I'll basically be out of mana and won't be able to cast another SST unless I wait for the regen or use a mana potion.

Mana is a huge issue for me right now, and from my experience, the mana leech from the Lioneye's chest combined with the "Non-channeled skills have -# mana cost" ring craft is NOT enough to sustain mana. I'm going to try a chest piece with the "Socketed attacks have -15 to mana cost" affix on it and see how that goes.

I imported your character as your mana problems really got me curious.

Your second mana leech jewel is doing nothing. In my pob your capped on your mana leech (20% = 133) even with one jewel. So you could get Mana on Hit here.

You could optimize the ring craft from -7 to -9 and also use it on the 2nd ring.

Currently without those changes and without the chest your SST cost 23 mana. Even with all buffs and let's say spamming 4 Attacks per Second you consuming under 100 mana.

Leech + Reg is > 150 mana. So for me that sounds like a good buffer. Pretty strange that you have so much issues :(

Looks like you imported my character when I was in the middle of re-configuring everything. I no longer have mana issues.

I bought a 6L chest for 2ex that has the -15 to mana cost affix on it. Combine that with a single mana leech jewel and that's all I really need to run Pride, a banner, aspect of the spider, and precision. I haven't tested removing the master crafted -mana cost ring yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't needed anymore. All good on the mana front now after that chest piece. Awesome build!

Keep the mana craft and go for enlighten lvl 3 so that you can run another 25% aura like herald of purity instead of warbanner + precision ;)

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Meru84 escribió:

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Kalithas escribió:

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Try import my character, i have a 2800 armor shield, a chest with -15 mana and a mana leech ring. I killed 3 times sirus, all the conquerors, elder and shaper

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not here to say that the build is bad or anything. I have played two leagues so far, so my knowledge of the game is still not there. However I understand that for endgame, single target damage is somewhat crucial this league. Also I got some extreme luck with cards and currency, I got around 17ex to spend right now (avg. ex I made in a league is like 3 or 4)

So I'm just kind of puzzled if I should pump all my currency in this build or try a slayer cyclone build for example. I would like to kill bosses, and doing the endgame by myself would be cool.

Right now spectral shield throw on poeninja is at 0.1% , so beyond this thread there is nowhere to look for more information. And therefore I appreciate all your help and advice.

My build now is around 27/28 exa (got lukcy too with a drop of awakened multistrike).
Scaling SST is harder than other skills in my opinions so with the same cost or less you can make a build with a lot more dps

I decied to stay with the build for this league and I bought some upgrades :)
Could you tell me your pantheon setup for maps and bosses (sirus) ?
Also, any vaal skill that would fit in this build? Vaal molten shell maybe?