[Major Damage/Mapping Improvements-Update 7.1.22 PoB/Vid] The Fortified Summoner: HoP MI Champion

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Peterrabbit_01 escribió:

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kubicka escribió:

I will leave my feedback aswell, because I really love the build! Its totally great for Ultimatums!

Leveling was realy pain, I leveled as Frost Blades till Dom. Blow and immidietly switched to SRS once I hit MI, because Dom. Blow was bad atleast for me. Then I switched to zombies MI on like 60lvl.

This is something I would like more feedback on from everyone: How has dom blow worked leveling? I always found it pretty smooth all the way up in to early mapping but i've heard mixed stories. If it's painful to level as dom blow I'll see what else I can think up to level and still re-use as much of the tree as possible.

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Thank you for your review; I think it's very fair. In summary, this build is tanky and forgiving, but after certain point damage scaling becomes more difficult/expensive than some other builds. This aligns pretty well with my experience, and I absolutely agree this build leans toward the "safe and easy" end of the spectrum.

Just a note: I think you will have much better map clear with a 6-link zombie; zombies are our main map clear tool and being on a 5link really hurts. I am actually using a generic rare 6-link until I can afford loreweave; it's still pretty tanky even at 70% res with Transcendence. That+a level 21 zombie is probably the biggest bang for the buck in clearspeed.

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queebl escribió:

just looking off the old 3.13 POB, if my crappy math works out its about ~4mill dps with all the endgame gear up and running in that POB. Not too shabby, but yeah that needs a lot of investment to get there, and id feel bad against sirus or anything with lower than that. unless my math is off

Edit: I looked at the POB build on page 36 you posted and its about 1.6-2m dps, which also seems low when you're right up on bosses faces and its not DoT style set it and forget it dps.

Just want to make sure i make a good decision build wise before i start leveling lol. Everything was smooth with this level of damage and gear?

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queebl escribió:

just looking off the old 3.13 POB, if my crappy math works out its about ~4mill dps with all the endgame gear up and running in that POB. Not too shabby, but yeah that needs a lot of investment to get there, and id feel bad against sirus or anything with lower than that. unless my math is off

Edit: I looked at the POB build on page 36 you posted and its about 1.6-2m dps, which also seems low when you're right up on bosses faces and its not DoT style set it and forget it dps.

Just want to make sure i make a good decision build wise before i start leveling lol. Everything was smooth with this level of damage and gear?

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KooperT escribió:

Yep, got my 6-link loreweave last night, and the damage is noticeably better.

The main issue though isn't so much just raw damage, but the minimal "close range" and small AoE of the build. I'm used to playing CoC/Nova/Ball Lightning type builds, where spinning through a pack once is enough to know everything is dead.

I'm still getting used to this build's playstyle, where you don't really know if you killed the full pack as there's a delay on the detonations, and the AoE is small, sometimes meaning a few monsters on the outside of the pack might not get hit. So a lot of the time, I find myself spinning back through tankier packs 2-3 times just to "be sure" (IE: mostly blue packs)

There's also the issue of uncertainty regarding single target DPS / APS.
With CoC, you know exactly what the breakpoints are based on your CDR. But with Herald of Purity, at a 20% proc chance, you could hit 5 times in a row or not at all in 10 hits. I've noticed sometimes I'll have 0 minions up for several seconds of hitting (rare but possible), and then suddenly have 4.

I'm currently at around 9-10 APS and have no idea if I'm over-spawning or under-spawning minions, which is important to maximize single target DPS. Most of the time the HoP counter is at 2-3 but I do notice it's sometimes at 4, meaning it could easily be over-writing minions. Unfortunately I don't think there's any real method of testing this, I guess just need to play with different APS numbers and see what "feels good?"

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Just wanted to flag that catalysts no longer work to improve the reservation of the rings, because they are now generic "reservation" instead of "mana reservation".