[3.21] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Elementalist For Everyone

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Defiants escribió:

I'm kind of frustrated, I don't really understand how people are having the success they're having with this build. I've invested quite a bit into it and I'm still just getting one shot all the time.

I'm really tired of the "hurr durr, just don't get hit" attitude. I don't know what content they're talking about, but there's more than enough content in this game where you really just can't avoid getting hit.

I don't feel there's any true defensive layers here. We have a large ES pool, and some ES regen-- but even with 8600 ES I'm getting 100% one shot. From full ES to dead in a fraction of a second, all while in a map that otherwise poses no challenge. I cannot do Sirus at higher awakener levels, if I get touched at any point in that fight I just die. I can't do Ultimatums on a consistent basis, I can't do Tier 16 maps consistently. I'm level 94 and cannot progress past this point, and I just spent a bunch on the Cluster Jewels only to allocate them and see no perceivable buff. Damage went up by like 10%, but I had to remove defensive nodes such as the Shield Block stuff.

I'm just getting tired of having builds hyped up by people that somehow have 100s of Exalts to make literally any build work, then presenting it to people as if it's a strong build for average players. I have 1500 hours in this game. I'm not a noob. I'm definitely not an expert or a top tier player either, but damn. I'm really just getting sick of the game because of how people consistently misrepresent builds.

Or is this just the state of the game? I don't know.

It really bothers me that people can't just present their build guides in an honest manner. This is yet another paper tiger build presented as having defenses and the ability to do all content in the game. That's not true unless you're buying 100 exalts through RMT.

And no, I'm not giving my items to random people on TFT. That's not a game I want to play. I've been scammed before by "trusted" people. I'm not into playing Path of Exile that way. I'm saying this because the response to me stating that you need 100 exalts will be "just craft your own gear" which is nonsense because none of this "crafted" gear is crafted by one individual person; instead it's crafted in part by one person, then handed to another to do extremely rare harvest crafts. If that's the only way your build can get geared properly, it shouldn't be considered as viable for SSF. This build played via SSF will not progress past Tier 14 maps. The only way to get the damage required is through the Low Life variant which is significantly more fragile and requires several uniques that will be hard to source in SSF.

Anyone glancing at my profile, my weapon can be improved-- sure, for a dozen exalts or so, for a slight increase in DPS, which won't stop me from getting one shot. I could upgrade my belt for a dozen exalts. My Elder Ring could probably have a bit more ES on it, but I use it to generate Endurance Charges which assists my CWDT Immortal Call link. ( Which isn't even included in the base build, instead they suggest you have more damage abilities such as frost bomb )

If you want to spend 20 exalts to avoid a good portion of Map Modifiers and still struggle to do most of the end game content, this build is great for you.

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weikor escribió:

I think its fair to say that this build kills bosses. Definitely not "melts" them.

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l33tsmurf escribió:

Having played this build a few leagues ago and again this league (both SSF) I think both sides of the argument about surviveability have some merit.

The LL version is definitely not as tanky as the CI version, and having played both, I much preferred the CI version. I do not see damage being an issue, even with the CI version, so no need to make a build that is far less tanky just so you can kill something 30% quicker. I would take 10ES with 500k damage over 7kES with 1M damage any day.


You still get the occasional 1 shot even with 10K ES, but this is just the game. Unless you play a max block glad or something, you will always be squishy.

Regarding damage, look at my profile, all SSF gear, and I can literally just run through mobs in a juiced up T16 map and things die instantly. Bosses take a bit longer, but still melt quickly. With this build as it sits I have done 20 wave Simul, Shaper, A6 Sirus, multiple 10 way boss fights, Trialmaster, and every Ultimatum in every map to the maximum wave.

I think the cluster jewel build is a bit of a cluster f@#k to be honest, and never even went that way. I want to have wicked ward, and tons of ES, with enough damage to kill mobs. Focusing on damage over survivability is where the build took a bit of a turn for the worst in my opinion (no offence Shak). The original build was better, although to be fair, being SSF I have not tired the tweaked version of the "new" builds.

TLDR : In short, build is still strong, tanky and can do most, if not all content, just tweak it to your play style and gear, and concentrate most on ES than DPS.

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MisterCastle escribió:

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weikor escribió:

I think its fair to say that this build kills bosses. Definitely not "melts" them.

Yeah agreed. Boss killing can take a bit of time so it might require you to learn those mechanics in order to win those fights but for mapping the build is quick and easy.

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Defiants escribió:

I'm kind of frustrated, I don't really understand how people are having the success they're having with this build. I've invested quite a bit into it and I'm still just getting one shot all the time.