[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

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deeveejay escribió:

Ok, so first I want to thank for this guide, it's well written and very detailed!

I test this build currently ((Lvl 88 now, no jewel slots yet, 1 claw, no enlighten (although I have my Fenumus Weave stored in stash), overall around 12 ex invested so far)).

My thoughts:

pros:

+ very fun to play, can't wait to test it with Aspect of the Spider enabled (still waiting for my Enlighten to lvlup)
+ ok in Delve during run through mine (but look at my cons)
+ can tank A LOT with Vaal Molten Shield enabled
+ Jade Flask 100% uptime helps a lot

cons: (and I will be more than happy for author's suggestions, you can see character in my profile)

- squishy (yes, when there's no Molten Shield available, this build, at least in my hands, is prone to be melted in 1 second - dunno really why) - any suggestions? I have res capped, 4,8k life, use Fortify and Jade Flask all the time
- sucks at killing bosses - really, I don't know if this is the new patch with overall more life for bosses (I play on awakened level 5, so it's just 15% more life), but bosses on red maps die slooooooooooooow - any suggestions here (except for second claw - I know)?

Anyway, I have mixed feelings now, considering that final build will cost me about 20-25 ex (and there will be rather minor improvements and item switches).

My league starter pure Bane lazy 2-button build still clears map at same or even slightly better speed, but also is much more tanky and melts bossed better (still slower than most builds, because I made her currency farmer, not boss killer with Essence Drain, but better).

BUT... maybe I do something wrong?

EDIT (!): It seems, that Fenumus Weave is a major upgrade. I'd say it's not luxury item, but mandatory upgrade to do red maps comfortably. So it look much better in terms of map clearing and being safe during the process. In terms of bossing I will update soon after some more testing.

EDIT2: Yeah, clearing with Fenumus is much safer, still bosses and red map metamorphs are pain in the a**. I simply cannot deal enough damage to kill them in few seconds... not to mention about Conquerors on Awakening lvl 5 :)

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Archernick escribió:

Whelp. After going Cold Vortex Occultist, and then Power Siphon Inquisitor, I can now say I'm coming home to my Viper/Pestilent League Starter.

Sorry Torstien, I should have never have left!

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deeveejay escribió:

Ok, so first I want to thank for this guide, it's well written and very detailed!

I test this build currently ((Lvl 88 now, no jewel slots yet, 1 claw, no enlighten (although I have my Fenumus Weave stored in stash), overall around 12 ex invested so far)).

My thoughts:

pros:

+ very fun to play, can't wait to test it with Aspect of the Spider enabled (still waiting for my Enlighten to lvlup)
+ ok in Delve during run through mine (but look at my cons)
+ can tank A LOT with Vaal Molten Shield enabled
+ Jade Flask 100% uptime helps a lot

cons: (and I will be more than happy for author's suggestions, you can see character in my profile)

- squishy (yes, when there's no Molten Shield available, this build, at least in my hands, is prone to be melted in 1 second - dunno really why) - any suggestions? I have res capped, 4,8k life, use Fortify and Jade Flask all the time
- sucks at killing bosses - really, I don't know if this is the new patch with overall more life for bosses (I play on awakened level 5, so it's just 15% more life), but bosses on red maps die slooooooooooooow - any suggestions here (except for second claw - I know)?

Anyway, I have mixed feelings now, considering that final build will cost me about 20-25 ex (and there will be rather minor improvements and item switches).

My league starter pure Bane lazy 2-button build still clears map at same or even slightly better speed, but also is much more tanky and melts bossed better (still slower than most builds, because I made her currency farmer, not boss killer with Essence Drain, but better).

BUT... maybe I do something wrong?

EDIT (!): It seems, that Fenumus Weave is a major upgrade. I'd say it's not luxury item, but mandatory upgrade to do red maps comfortably. So it look much better in terms of map clearing and being safe during the process. In terms of bossing I will update soon after some more testing.

EDIT2: Yeah, clearing with Fenumus is much safer, still bosses and red map metamorphs are pain in the a**. I simply cannot deal enough damage to kill them in few seconds... not to mention about Conquerors on Awakening lvl 5 :)

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ArkamHatchet escribió:

what does the +1 to min frenzy charges on the amulet do? I have always 1 frenzy charge?
wouldn't endurance charge be better for defense in that case?

also which flask setup for the sirius fight, I don't think I will need quicksilver there

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Provin915 escribió:

What do you guys think about crafting +1 melee range on helm and necklace?

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kompaniet escribió:

does chill from vortex/bonechill stack with slow from aspect of the spider?

does multitotem support linked to wither double the chaos damage taken somehow? or what is the reasoning for taking it over increased duration or faster casting?

is anyone using frostbomb?

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deeveejay escribió:

Struggles with murdering dudes via poison.

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JayCy escribió:

Any suggestions on crafting the Claws? yes I've read the guide, but maybe I'm just having awful luck. I cannot, for the life of me get the adds # to # chaos damage AND the chance for poisons to do 100% more damage to roll at the same time. Probably spent like 150C on Corroded fossils at this point. Maybe I'm just venting lol. Any weapon I've found worth a damn is at least 6 ex rn. I'll keep checking though.