[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

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Daibom escribió:

Hi Folks and Gryph,


This is the smoothest 1 handed build I have played by far so kudos to Gryph. And Finally got to fix my DPS issues on this build. My current problems now are:

1. Sirus - i run out of mana because of the mana flask running out long before fight ends and there is no way to refill it. What can I do to help my mana sustain (one of my rings has mana recovery over 4 seconds on damage taken)? Never have killed A8 Sirus on this build though have finally killed him on another VD Shield Block Based build.

2. Very very very squishy. Im on a knife's edge when leveling (am already lvl 97 and every death from now on is extremely expensive in terms of time and maps)

3. my HP goes down really fast when I cast for more than a second or two continuosly. Any help here? I have 1 ring that gives me life back for every enemy hit by my attacks. DO i need 2?

Number 2 and Number 3 are much more important for me as I wanna level to 100 with this guy. Though Id like to kill Sirus as well of course.

I also have the Watcher's eye with ES on hit but i have issues there (though not as bad as the life issue)

I play on Standard and may try to buy some cluster jewels from those who died in HC if needed.

thanks all and hoping for your replies.

Here is my pastebin and my gear

https://pastebin.com/GzbE3nyU

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Gryphenprey escribió:

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Daibom escribió:

Hi Folks and Gryph,


This is the smoothest 1 handed build I have played by far so kudos to Gryph. And Finally got to fix my DPS issues on this build. My current problems now are:

1. Sirus - i run out of mana because of the mana flask running out long before fight ends and there is no way to refill it. What can I do to help my mana sustain (one of my rings has mana recovery over 4 seconds on damage taken)? Never have killed A8 Sirus on this build though have finally killed him on another VD Shield Block Based build.

2. Very very very squishy. Im on a knife's edge when leveling (am already lvl 97 and every death from now on is extremely expensive in terms of time and maps)

3. my HP goes down really fast when I cast for more than a second or two continuosly. Any help here? I have 1 ring that gives me life back for every enemy hit by my attacks. DO i need 2?

Number 2 and Number 3 are much more important for me as I wanna level to 100 with this guy. Though Id like to kill Sirus as well of course.

I also have the Watcher's eye with ES on hit but i have issues there (though not as bad as the life issue)

I play on Standard and may try to buy some cluster jewels from those who died in HC if needed.

thanks all and hoping for your replies.

Here is my pastebin and my gear

https://pastebin.com/GzbE3nyU

So I'm doing some testing/experimenting right now with the build and sustain. Trying to see if I can get decent DPS while using a totally different method of Life sustain.

Sustain portion of this is successful:

Militant Faith - Venarius for The Agnostic keystone. Which Reads:

"Maximum Energy Shield is 0. While not on Full Life, sacrifice 20% of maximum mana per second to recover that much life"

From here I am currently taking the original tree that scaled ES nodes and removing them for the big mana nodes. Mind Over Matter and an unreserved pool of about 3k mana and I can sustain indefinitely (as long as I don't use Awakened Spell Cascade). It's a balancing act and a work in progress as I experiment with it but it might be more effective overall as it also solves the mana issues in general.

You will lose 1-2 damage auras. Aul's is still viable, though Atziri's Foible is an easy way to boost mana and regen.

Damage taken gained as mana watcher's eye is basically essential for good mana sustain. Mana recovery rate being an excellent 2nd mod.

Cloak of defiance would be a good option for ease of testing this method and/or just a solid budget unique to use. I prefer my rares though and you can get the 10% extra MoM effect on a Shaper Rare with spell crit anyways.

Anyways, you can mess around with that in hideout if you want, I'm still experimenting with it in league without using cluster jewels (ok, just using Kitava's Teaching) but it's got the sustain covered really nicely. Just need to see about DPS. I can get to about 220k on 6L with Spell Cascade per Volatile so far which is pretty reasonable but not great.

I'll be making updates if I find this successful. Here's for hoping. :P

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Daibom escribió:

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Gryphenprey escribió:

So I'm doing some testing/experimenting right now with the build and sustain. Trying to see if I can get decent DPS while using a totally different method of Life sustain.

Sustain portion of this is successful:

Militant Faith - Venarius for The Agnostic keystone. Which Reads:

"Maximum Energy Shield is 0. While not on Full Life, sacrifice 20% of maximum mana per second to recover that much life"

From here I am currently taking the original tree that scaled ES nodes and removing them for the big mana nodes. Mind Over Matter and an unreserved pool of about 3k mana and I can sustain indefinitely (as long as I don't use Awakened Spell Cascade). It's a balancing act and a work in progress as I experiment with it but it might be more effective overall as it also solves the mana issues in general.

You will lose 1-2 damage auras. Aul's is still viable, though Atziri's Foible is an easy way to boost mana and regen.

Damage taken gained as mana watcher's eye is basically essential for good mana sustain. Mana recovery rate being an excellent 2nd mod.

Cloak of defiance would be a good option for ease of testing this method and/or just a solid budget unique to use. I prefer my rares though and you can get the 10% extra MoM effect on a Shaper Rare with spell crit anyways.

Anyways, you can mess around with that in hideout if you want, I'm still experimenting with it in league without using cluster jewels (ok, just using Kitava's Teaching) but it's got the sustain covered really nicely. Just need to see about DPS. I can get to about 220k on 6L with Spell Cascade per Volatile so far which is pretty reasonable but not great.

I'll be making updates if I find this successful. Here's for hoping. :P

Im hoping as well.

this looks really exciting.

I saw your other build (and posted there as well) regarding the Low life version of VD spellsinger. I think it was using a wand and a shield (?). but i have too much invested in this guy to totally switch. I will try out some of your suggestions Sir !!!!!! and thanks for always replying. You should have a streaming channel or Youtube channel for your builds. With your attitude for assistance and great builds, am sure you will have a lot of followers!

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Daibom escribió:

Hi Folks and Gryph,


This is the smoothest 1 handed build I have played by far so kudos to Gryph. And Finally got to fix my DPS issues on this build. My current problems now are:

1. Sirus - i run out of mana because of the mana flask running out long before fight ends and there is no way to refill it. What can I do to help my mana sustain (one of my rings has mana recovery over 4 seconds on damage taken)? Never have killed A8 Sirus on this build though have finally killed him on another VD Shield Block Based build.

2. Very very very squishy. Im on a knife's edge when leveling (am already lvl 97 and every death from now on is extremely expensive in terms of time and maps)

3. my HP goes down really fast when I cast for more than a second or two continuosly. Any help here? I have 1 ring that gives me life back for every enemy hit by my attacks. DO i need 2?

Number 2 and Number 3 are much more important for me as I wanna level to 100 with this guy. Though Id like to kill Sirus as well of course.

I also have the Watcher's eye with ES on hit but i have issues there (though not as bad as the life issue)

I play on Standard and may try to buy some cluster jewels from those who died in HC if needed.

thanks all and hoping for your replies.

Here is my pastebin and my gear

https://pastebin.com/GzbE3nyU

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Aze_Aze escribió:

How about bladeblast in cwdt instead of culling strike for mapping?
I feel like culling strike is only good for sirus

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Allbroke escribió:

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Daibom escribió:

Hi Folks and Gryph,


This is the smoothest 1 handed build I have played by far so kudos to Gryph. And Finally got to fix my DPS issues on this build. My current problems now are:

1. Sirus - i run out of mana because of the mana flask running out long before fight ends and there is no way to refill it. What can I do to help my mana sustain (one of my rings has mana recovery over 4 seconds on damage taken)? Never have killed A8 Sirus on this build though have finally killed him on another VD Shield Block Based build.

2. Very very very squishy. Im on a knife's edge when leveling (am already lvl 97 and every death from now on is extremely expensive in terms of time and maps)

3. my HP goes down really fast when I cast for more than a second or two continuosly. Any help here? I have 1 ring that gives me life back for every enemy hit by my attacks. DO i need 2?

Number 2 and Number 3 are much more important for me as I wanna level to 100 with this guy. Though Id like to kill Sirus as well of course.

I also have the Watcher's eye with ES on hit but i have issues there (though not as bad as the life issue)

I play on Standard and may try to buy some cluster jewels from those who died in HC if needed.

thanks all and hoping for your replies.

Here is my pastebin and my gear

https://pastebin.com/GzbE3nyU

Correct me if I'm wrong but on your POB you seem to have not taken Golem Commander or any passives around Unatural instinct and your chest doesn't have the "increase offering effect" affix on it, this may explain your squishyness.

Also you are running a lvl 20 cyclone with quite a lot of attack speed this will result in you killing yourself pretty much.

Try swapping for a lvl 1 cyclone.
For the mana sustain 6% damage gaines as mana over 4 sec won't be enough, aim for at least 14%.