[3.9] Animate Weapon Chains of Command powerful life flask Build /
"allright thanks .. i guess trying 2 builds at once would be profitable .. since both are good |
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" You're right. I understood that the patch notes did not mention More attack speed and More damage in the chains of command. Without more attack speed and Damage, the chains of command are quite weak. The animate weapon gem can easily spawn minions. Chains of command takes more effort than animate weapon gem. So I expected the animate weapon gem and chains of command to be similar. Could you make a modified POB? |
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" Paradoxica and Voidforge tried. Very expensive paradoxica is stronger than Terminus Est. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/vyyReJXiE As much as Terminus Est https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/Laa8gDGin Paradoxica does not earn Frenzy charges. Equip Animate Guradian with Victario's Charity. A little Frenzy charge accumulates in Animate Weapon. Then I thought Terminus Est was good. Voidforge was not very strong. If you can make a good build, please tell me POB. |
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Alright, here goes the Voidforge build, 20M dps with not that high an investment (I used Awakening melee physical damage because I wanted intimidate and my first version included master of fear):
https://pastebin.com/eHgVpVbR Since PoB is 100% unreliable (especially given the nature of Voidforge), let's do the calculation manually. I will explain it as it's not really easy to understand. First, I divided the calculation in three, one column per element. -The first line is the base damage from Void forge. Its cheapness allows you to get close to max roll, so I went for it (114+238)/2 = 176 -The second line is the added damage. We have 155 base added damage from the patch, and I have 4 shitty jewels with 12 damage on average. 155 + 12 * 4 = 203 -The third line is the chance to double damage. I have 15% from Gravepact and Renewal (I will pick it) -The 4th line is a bit more complex. As you have 1/3 chance to have 300% in one element, it's, on average, the same than 100% in all elements all the time. However, since I have triad grip (2G-2B, green being a bit better than blue but not that big a deal), I also have 50% cold and 50% lightning on every hit. Finally I have some added cold damage from hatred. Basically, I can do: -300% fire, 50% lightning, 85% cold -350% lightning, 85% cold -50% lightning, 385% cold. On average, that's 100% fire, 185% cold, 150% lightning. That will multiply everything else. -The 5th line is just the more cold damage from hatred so I don't mix it up with the rest. It's obviously removed from the futur "more damage". -Resistances, as in a multiplier. I hit against 51% fire resist (EE being fire damage), -24% lightning resistance (PoB is missing elemental army lightning and fire), -39% cold resistance. So I hit for *0.49 for fire, * 1.24 for lightning, *1.39 for cold. -Increased damage taken, from intimidate and aspect of the spider -Increased damage, nothing to say about it -More damage, same. It's from PoB (Except for Hatred, which was above). I have the frenzy charges from victario with a firestorm in the trigger wand. -Increased and more attack speed, from pob. -Base attack speed of Void forge. I took 1,46, but you may try for corruption for the +8% attack speed. -Amount of weapons, self explaining. -Culling strike. Since the build has culling strike, you do 11,11% more damage. Then, you add the first two lines, and you multiply with everything else. The excel shows an average dps per element, then total. As you can see in the PoB, you can upgrade everything quite easily. The jewels are atrocious, you can get a better wand, I don't have any minion damage roll on equipment, etc... I didn't count the shock, because I have no way to do that. But it will be here. While the triad grip 2G 2B may sound silly, it's actually not that bad. The most important thing is avoiding red rockets (or blue sockets if you use a lightning skill for EE, but firestorm is better for victario). Blue socket are a dps loss, but being able to fit everything in the build is more important. However, you can get unset rings and put the blue gems inside and get a 4G triad grip for maximum effectiveness. Getting 4G over 2B2G is a 4,4% dps gain. The only cluster notable simulated here was Renewal (and you can skip it if you prefer, btw). I will probably get Veteran awareness, however (if cheap enough). Ps: BTW, my build has a completely different take on defense than your. I'm relying on bone offering, not on flasks. Edit: About that: "I made the opposite choice. I planned to play as a AW weapon, I ditched it for a lot of reasons: -Subpar damage (it will be an average minion skill damage) -Lot of annoying stuff to have and to do (Yes, I have the opposite opinion. Having to use bladefall, then 14-16 times AW, or waste a support for unleash was not something I was waiting for) -You have to pay attention to the duration all the time, and unlike DB, Chains of command or arakaali, you can't spawn 14 AW at once. While the changes on CoC made it an amazing scaling tools for a lot of weapons (Paradoxica (I won't show a dps breakdown like I did for Voidforge, but you can hit 16M+ dps), Voidforge, etc). What people don't get, is that the weapon used for AW is a fucking GLASS SHANK. Meanwhile, Coc have the same added physical damage bonus everyone is fapping on, but can use it on VOIDFORGE. It's an incredible up (and tbh, you were wasting it talking about converting it to fire with Oro or with zero scaling weapons like starforge or terminus est), and that's why i'm boarding the CoC train x) While the fact you have to get some jars is annoying, yes. The fact you are impaired against boss is not fun. But it's very doable, and the clear will be amazing. Editado por útlima vez por Keyen en 11 mar. 2020 19:48:31
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" Your AW is set at level 20, and by comparison all Chains of command builds have been set to level 7 or 8 I believe, so your build has around 4.5m dps. |
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Hmm... I'm honestly quite put out about the change to the number of weapons you can summon. I'd been looking forward to running this build for 3.10 for the past 2 months, but now I don't know if it's even still viable. With so few minions are they even going to be able to clear quickly? Will you still be able to afk farm blight maps? Is the DPS going to be so bad that it's no longer worth it? Do the lvl 18 and lvl 20 versions of this have different weapon counts or are they combined? So many questions.
Do you guys think it will be worth running this as a league start? |
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" I'm not using AW for the calculation, nor i'm using pob for this matter. And anyway, you should be looking at the Animate guardian weapon for the dps if even the above were false, not at the link itself. BTW, I did a PoB with manual changes to update the buffs (But I really don't like doing that manually): https://pastebin.com/H5jdWkT1 Here you go, you can check for yourself. Still 1.43 million dps per weapon or 20M global. And it doesn't include culling strike. Editado por útlima vez por Keyen en 12 mar. 2020 2:21:48
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I tried to compare.
Weapon comparison Comparison of effects ----------------------------------------- ##### Effective ##### Minions deal 48% more damage Minions deal 48% more attack speed ################# pure Physical-Terminus Est DPS 1.57M * 14 = 21.98M https://pastebin.com/P0LEYJzP pure Physical-Starforge DPS 1.61M * 14 = 22.54M https://pastebin.com/XhNvaLEV pure Phyisical-Paradixuca 1.70M * 14 = 23.8M https://pastebin.com/uugTjpSj Elemental-Voidforge 1.44M * 14 = 20.16M https://pastebin.com/XL1aXNF2 ----------------------------------------- ##### No effect ##### Minions deal 48% more damage Minions deal 48% more attack speed ################# pure Physical-Terminus Est DPS 0.72M * 14 = 10.08M ----------------------------------------- Description Why I am using Animate Weapon Gem lv1 That's because Deals 100% of Damage. Because it is the same as ver3.10. result Minions deal 48% more damage Minions deal 48% more attack speed Weak if this is not in the chains of command. If it is the same as the patch note, I think you should do another build. |
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I dont get it, my 20M above doesn't take in account the 48%/48% more anyway. If we somehow does get affecte by it, great, it will be even better, but I dont need it to achieve obscene dps.
Editado por útlima vez por Keyen en 12 mar. 2020 6:29:49
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" Thanks for the great explanation. As you say, voidforge POB may not calculate the correct DPS. Probably DPS20M. I understood the contents of the image. I feel like the calculation of elemental weakness is not included. Maybe your 20M is different from my 20M. I change to POB-configuration-Is the enemy a boss? -Shaper / guradian. + 50% to enemy elemental resistances That is different from the DPS I want. |
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