[3.9] Physical Conversion Bowyer | Wander [TS/LA/IS + Barrage] [KB + Power Siphon] [All Content]

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Enahkra escribió:

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Escalune escribió:

I've really enjoyed playing both the wand and bow variants of this build, but I decided to play Cyclone this patch in Standard. However, I was curious if you had found any clever uses for the Awakener jewel.

P.S. I think the game is trying to tell me to come back to this build because I found the below on my first few kills. Are there Standard options for the Awakener orb I should consider or am I better off just selling it to one of the big crafters?

Not so far, at least not one that would make the build objectively better. The %res cost as well as a lost jewel socket + passive points makes the opportunity cost too high imo. I was playing around with it til I ran out of divines so maybe later on I'll check it out again, nothing looked too promising tho.

And very nice stuff :) I think better off selling for now esp while the prices are still high. It's not really worth using atm (at least after they nerfed or patched the one exploit a few days ago).

I figured as much but it's nice to hear the same from your perspective. I ended up selling the gems and orb because the prices are frankly insane at the moment, seems like a bubble waiting to burst... would rather have an extra 1/3 mirror for when I remake my character.

Upd. Managed to link one more Arborix on the terms when i can say "Alright, worth it. Keep it" (took 2 ex). Helmet will be crafted for sure...something like 90+ life / 2res/ -% cold res to nearby enemies

I'm huge T-shot fan and I'll try to play around with it. I'm thinking about gem setup.

TS-Vic.Proj.-WED-Inspiration-Added cold-GMP (w/o Dying sun) and Mirage Archer w/ dying sun?

Barrage-CoC-PCoC-Wave-Proj.Weakness-LGOH.

Also the question if Balista will proc Voidshots???

Loving the build so far! Bossing in t13+ ain't bad as I honestly thought it'd be. Working on getting that sweet Watcher's Eye and a corrupted blood jewel next.

Enahkra, are there any things I can upgrade to increase my DPS significantly (I thought about getting Fractal Thoughts with +2proj, maybe there is more? Now my PS dps is around 5 mil, maybe a little bit higher) or I should start farming for switching for the bow build?

Hey is anyone tested them on wander

this mods on boots
:You have Tailwind if you have dealt a Critical Strike Recently
:10% chance to gain Elusive on Critical Strike
wood like to know worth invest or no

currently :

Hey, im a main flicker build guy, but im tired of getting one shotted by
t15+ metamorph, 20% of the time, and t16 guardians/exiles and/or making the end game bossing mechanics 200% harder.

Im assuming that i will do the bowyer version, since the league has almost 1 month and it has highier endgame potential than the wanderer.

How good is the build at the current endgame, are the metamorphs still one shot machines?

Going ham if its strong as it looks. :P

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ic3lik32409 escribió:

How would you play this as Deadeye? Since you lose elemental ailemnts immunity.

'cause I think deadeye is a lot better for mapping with tailwind, chain and extra arrow.

edit: or is maybe swapping to a semi 6l helmet with chain or smth better?

Given that Tailwind can be crafted on boots + Awakened GMP accounts for extra proj, and chain is somewhat overrated for KB, the clearspeed gap between the two builds has shrunk by a lot.

You would probably do what those 3 eternity shroud wander guys are doing. Just ignore ailment immunity by farming low tier maps w/ HH. Another option is a Cyclopean Coil (prob won't work for both shock immunity anymore tho).

Considering this league is a bossing league + they massively buffed boss hp, Deadeye will feel way worse for doing high tier content. Even as Pathfinder it'll be tough, but still manageable. With Deadeye's lack of flask sustain + defenses it'll feel pretty bad regardless which type of wander you play. One exception you could look at is int stacking wander which still provides a good amount of defenses as Deadeye but gearing up will be harder.

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Escalune escribió:

I figured as much but it's nice to hear the same from your perspective. I ended up selling the gems and orb because the prices are frankly insane at the moment, seems like a bubble waiting to burst... would rather have an extra 1/3 mirror for when I remake my character.

Yeah it feels like Uber Elder the first few months when you could make easy mirrors every few days. Gotta farm it as much as possible while it lasts lol.

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streej escribió:

Upd. Managed to link one more Arborix on the terms when i can say "Alright, worth it. Keep it" (took 2 ex). Helmet will be crafted for sure...something like 90+ life / 2res/ -% cold res to nearby enemies

I'm huge T-shot fan and I'll try to play around with it. I'm thinking about gem setup.

TS-Vic.Proj.-WED-Inspiration-Added cold-GMP (w/o Dying sun) and Mirage Archer w/ dying sun?

Barrage-CoC-PCoC-Wave-Proj.Weakness-LGOH.

Also the question if Balista will proc Voidshots???

Very nice stuff; Idk about T-shot after nerf, I think LA or Ice Shot might be better now. If you want to use T-shot I suggest replacing a damage link w/ faster proj perhaps to get that better secondary proj spread. I don't recommend Vic Proj for Tshot b/c it gives a "less attack speed" multiplier which is bad for clear. Also Added Cold is bad for the bow build b/c it's true phys conversion. I suggest following the gem setup on my guide for the most part for the most optimal damage.
You will find the damage way better than the wander :)
Also idk the answer to your Balisa question since I haven't tested in game but I'm pretty certain it doesn't proc Void Shot.

You can go pure Void Shot build w/ that barrage setup you mentioned but you'd lose a lot of your DPS. Even tho Void Shot is OP, you still get the majority of your DPS from regular barrage, so if you rely on barrage as only a proccing skill your DPS will be reduced significantly.

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Redguin escribió:

Yup, waiting for an uber lab day that doesn't massively suck (todays was horrible!)

Looks like Mathil is going ele wand route with Siphon clear and barrage single. If anything it might bump bow build prices on barrage...

So far for content - some random one shots on T16, 91-92 as a level took a while and I've bricked probably half my exp on 92 so far due to one shots. However that has been more to my error / over confidence than the build.

T15+ Metas - anything with increased phys etc will 1 tap with melee. Same rule as the Poets, burst then get out and wait for a window.

T15+ bosses - ranging from absolute joke to eh. I'll try and get some footage on some T16s with increased life etc this week. The only one I've ever had a vague problem with was Elder guardians where I forgot map mods effect them and gave them turbo+increased AoE+ damage increase. Again, not a damage issue just a don't get hit point.

Delve - currently depth 170ish and now pathing sideways. A breeze, not using cinderswallow though I will soon.

Watcher's Eye finally picked up and one more level to slot it. Currency this league is coming thick and fast so then it'll be an overhaul of the belt I think. Videos to follow if my PC will hold up.

Very nice thx for the feedback; overall seems to agree with what my other playtesters are saying.

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nabilfares5 escribió:

How good is the build at the current endgame, are the metamorphs still one shot machines?

Going ham if its strong as it looks. :P

You'll still occasionally get 1 tapped, I've had a few fairly bullshit deaths to metas. However I do think you can easily stand way further back, not try and insta-gib and play safer and survive easily. This build (or any Ranger) at 5-6k life will clear content with ease but will struggle with defence. I can highly recommend it but you aren't invincible.

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Tanyrgrisr escribió:

Loving the build so far! Bossing in t13+ ain't bad as I honestly thought it'd be. Working on getting that sweet Watcher's Eye and a corrupted blood jewel next.

Very nice; glad you're enjoying the build. I think the flat cold enchant on boots (it won't override your boot implicit) and also a helm enchant would give more DPS when factoring in the amount of currency you spend. After those two items I think Watcher's Eye is the way too go. This build lacks flat damage so flat will add a lot to DPS.

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nabilfares5 escribió:

Hey, im a main flicker build guy, but im tired of getting one shotted by
t15+ metamorph, 20% of the time, and t16 guardians/exiles and/or making the end game bossing mechanics 200% harder.

Im assuming that i will do the bowyer version, since the league has almost 1 month and it has highier endgame potential than the wanderer.

How good is the build at the current endgame, are the metamorphs still one shot machines?

Going ham if its strong as it looks. :P

Pretty much what the poster above said. You'll still get random one-shots due to overtuned mechanics; most builds out there will randomly die. But if you follow the Voidfletcher setup you will melt bosses fast enough where you will pretty much never brick anything and be fine most of the time. read the last few pages of this thread if you want to get a better idea of the feedback from several bow ppl playing this build.

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argonazz escribió:

Hey is anyone tested them on wander

this mods on boots
:You have Tailwind if you have dealt a Critical Strike Recently
:10% chance to gain Elusive on Critical Strike
wood like to know worth invest or no

currently :

Those pair of boots would be good for any build. It would be great for the wander but you should prioritize getting everything else mentioned on the guide first.

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areukiddingme escribió:

Enahkra, are there any things I can upgrade to increase my DPS significantly (I thought about getting Fractal Thoughts with +2proj, maybe there is more? Now my PS dps is around 5 mil, maybe a little bit higher) or I should start farming for switching for the bow build?

I recommend using the Voidfletcher variant of the bow build instead; the wander setup currently has a lot of limitations, and you can only get so far even going for lvl 95+, etc. If you can eventually afford the bow setup you will find it much superior to the wand, not only b/c of the damage but b/c Voidfletcher allows you to be less accurate with your attacks and still deal massive damage.

Here's a quote from one of my playtesters in league:

"Just switched to bow and this is way more damage lol... i pretty much 1 shot methamorph boss in t16 awakened 6 maps lol"

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Enahkra escribió:

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Escalune escribió:

I figured as much but it's nice to hear the same from your perspective. I ended up selling the gems and orb because the prices are frankly insane at the moment, seems like a bubble waiting to burst... would rather have an extra 1/3 mirror for when I remake my character.

Yeah it feels like Uber Elder the first few months when you could make easy mirrors every few days. Gotta farm it as much as possible while it lasts lol.

Yeah I've farmed about 2 mirrors worth of drops so far in the last few days and I haven't even been pushing as hard as I probably should. It looks like many of the commodities have tanked in price, so the big money is mostly in the form of desirable Awakened gems now.

If I was considering mirror options for the bow build, would something like Tempest Thunder be the clear first thing to mirror? Or would you recommend waiting to see if anything new appears in the coming days? I don't imagine something obviously better being created unless I'm missing something about the new mods. Also it looks like the item has changed owners?