[3.5] Cyclone - Cast on Crit - Dark Pact - Occultist [3 mil DPS] [7k MoM]

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BETTERPC escribió:

I love this build!
Please tell me can i play this build with all my money?
Thank you so much!


1 more question: you think asssasin will have much more single target dame,? boss killer for sure!



sure you can

i would suggest starting with a wasp nest + lycosidae with a smaller budget

you can start with a 5 link too, ive written down which 5 links are most important.

you can go assassin if you want but trust me, occultist is much better

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Zizzuz escribió:

Got my character to tier16 maps and i have to say that it works pretty well. It is still WIP but i am pretty happy with current state. My cahracter is Scion version of your build with few changes. Got a small clip here: https://youtu.be/ty8sV7BE2RI

My problem atm is Crit multi/spell damage and leech rate, but that is going to be fixed with jewels and atziris aquity. Still testing with different potion and gem setups. I am not running skeletons because i am not fan of it. hate to cast them and trying to work out without them. Going to level ur version next when i get this build shorted out.

Noticed i have no abyss jewel atm :D going to add fire damage to spells to get charges for the mastermind flask.

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Chazua escribió:

Ah, I didn't realize Dark Pact scales with the amount of sacrificed life, yeah life-based seems like the way to go.

I think a Cinderswallow Urn might be worth looking into as well.

This build looks super fun, definitely giving it a try after I'm finished with my current character!

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Leysonic escribió:

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Chazua escribió:

Ah, I didn't realize Dark Pact scales with the amount of sacrificed life, yeah life-based seems like the way to go.

I think a Cinderswallow Urn might be worth looking into as well.

This build looks super fun, definitely giving it a try after I'm finished with my current character!

ive never got this flask before and ive seen a few people use it, why do you think this build will benefit form it?

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Leysonic escribió:

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BETTERPC escribió:

I love this build!
Please tell me can i play this build with all my money?
Thank you so much!


1 more question: you think asssasin will have much more single target dame,? boss killer for sure!



sure you can

i would suggest starting with a wasp nest + lycosidae with a smaller budget

you can start with a 5 link too, ive written down which 5 links are most important.

you can go assassin if you want but trust me, occultist is much better

I wouldnt recommend pure assasin. OP is right about that occultist is best way to go for budget and minmaxing. Problem you are gonna face with assasin is that you need addational curse and you are gonna sacriface alot of your defences to get easy crit chance and multi. Occultist provides everything this build needs and with really really cheap price. Scion is another ok option but it is really really expensive to get same stuff that occultist gets ( and i think there is not that many ppl that are testing and playing DP CoC, so i think we are pioners of this build in this league :D ). I need to have - chaos res helmet, addational curse amulet and multi modded claw to even compete with occultist.

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Greymane2k escribió:

Have been messing around with this build for the last week or so.

I'd say overall it feels a bit weaker than other popular CoC builds being played right now (ex: Frostbolt/Ice Nova, or Pathfinder BV/Bladefall, etc) but it's really not too bad, and the damage pops off when you drop the skeletons/wither/vaal RF, can really melt bosses. General mapping is where I found it a bit weaker - like if you just want to hold down Cyclone and spin through the map, not stopping to drop any skeletons/totems, the damage seems mediocre, combined with the fact that you're self-inflicting damage makes it a little less appealing than other CoC choices. That said it's still fun and certainly not a bad build/skill, if you're a Dark Pact and Cast-on-Crit fan this build functions adequately in my opinion, but there are certainly stronger CoC builds that exist on similar budgets.

I did make a few small changes after playing the original build for a bit: Using Carcass Jack instead of Cherrubim's Maleficence

Basically adds the same Area of Effect as an AoE Support Gem, so I dropped the AoE gem for an Added Chaos Damage gem

which nearly doubles tooltip damage and made mapping feel a bit better (basically increased the speed that I kill rare mobs in t15+), and as a small added bonus takes Cyclone tooltip from ~1k to about ~10k, not a major source of damage but still worth minor consideration.

Then using a Warlords Mark curse ring instead of Blasphemy (leaving more unreserved mana for MoM)

also using Blood Rage which when combined with CWDT+Immortal Call and the Soul of Arakaali / Queen of the Great Tangle Pantheon gives you a 50% Life Recovery increase everytime your Immortal Call triggers while Blood Rage is active, which seems to be more than enough (in conjunction with the LGoH on my claw) to survive pretty much anything. Plus Blood Rage granting attack speed makes it easier to hit higher Cyclone CoC breakpoints, so wanted to run it regardless.

Cinderswallow Urn seems pretty nice with this build as well.

Anyway just my 2 cents, I'm almost level 91 with the build so far, will probably continue playing it for awhile (maybe take it to 95 or so) and do some more bossing, attempt Uber Elder, etc.