[3.5] Dual wield Mjölner Untethered revived! Shaper+Uber Elder down! (Pathfinder)

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ICarrotU escribió:
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Asunaki_Tabi escribió:
is possible to do atziri with this?


I don't think so, you would instantly kill yourself during split face due to arc jumps and ball lightning procs.



i know that, im asking alternatives like gem swap
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PreczZpisem escribió:
Hello :)
Ma variation of this build maximizes leech. What do U think?



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maybe its viable to play with, but i dont like the leech version with vaal pact, u need to hit or u die -.-

but if u still wanna go the leech way, i would definitly add an overflowing chalice for more charges provided on vinktars. i also would change carnage heart for a rare amulett with dmg while leeching and ofc get more life as it increases ur leech.

u got so much more quality of life if u play the regen version sacr0 made :D
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Kolekiller2013 escribió:
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philophil escribió:
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Sacr0 escribió:


Can i ask why you are not using EE this would be a nice dmg boost for the build, and pls don't tell me ball lighting because it wouldn't mess up the EE.


i also thought of this, since u can easily craft flat cold/lightning/fire dmg on rings now, but the question is, how much it will boost the dps, based on the rotation of the elements that hit the mobs and the atk of cyclone.

every attack i do right now causes the target to take all 3 kind of elements in every hit i do, so i am rly unsure how to calculate the boost of ee right now for lightning.

gonna do some guardian testing this weekend, maybe i can get some numbers for u then.



EE get triggered for every hit so has long has your cyclone has no lightning dmg you should get 50% More dmg on both your arc and ball lightning first hit.
A day w/o dealing with stupid ppl is like....Never mind. Ill tell u if it ever happens
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yakuza_ escribió:
i'm questioning on waiting on this person to get online for a 15% inc cyclone attack speed enchant or just buying a normal helmet. should i wait or focus on another enchantment such as arc chain or something?


u can go for every enchant that fits this build ----> cyclone atk, arc chain/dmg or ball lightning. for some unknown reason inc arc dmg provides me more dmg then the chain one ...
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philophil escribió:
EE get triggered for every hit so has long has your cyclone has no lightning dmg you should get 50% More dmg on both your arc and ball lightning first hit.


thats not the problem, for example we take a guardian fight like hydra.

my cyclone hits with all 3 elements, as i crafted flat fire/cold/lightning dmg on my rings. the reason for flat lightning was the scaling for dps tho. so ee would be totaly useless for me right now as i trigger all elements the same time. for sure it would be a boost if i would replace the flat lightning dmg on my ring but as said before, flat lightning scales very good, so i need to calc it tonight how much the increase would be.
quick question, i apologize if it has been answered before, for cinderswallow urn we need to ignite. you recommend getting an abyss jewel with flat fire, however with the ascendancy node "Master Alchemist" we get 20% chance to freeze, shock, and ignite. is there something i'm missing or is it just something you overlooked?

edit: oh also what is the goal attacks per second we are trying to reach?
Editado por útlima vez por yakuza_#0461 en 4 ene. 2019 6:10:05
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Kolekiller2013 escribió:
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philophil escribió:
EE get triggered for every hit so has long has your cyclone has no lightning dmg you should get 50% More dmg on both your arc and ball lightning first hit.


thats not the problem, for example we take a guardian fight like hydra.

my cyclone hits with all 3 elements, as i crafted flat fire/cold/lightning dmg on my rings. the reason for flat lightning was the scaling for dps tho. so ee would be totaly useless for me right now as i trigger all elements the same time. for sure it would be a boost if i would replace the flat lightning dmg on my ring but as said before, flat lightning scales very good, so i need to calc it tonight how much the increase would be.


For EE, we would have to give up wrath more dmg multiplier and wrath watcher's eye lightning pen. it is definitely possible to do a EE version of this build. i don't know if it would be higher dmg without wrath/ele pen though.

we have to keep in mind that EE will only apply to enemies hit by cyclone. for clearing maps, most mobs wont get hit by cyclone so EE will be pretty bad there.
Editado por útlima vez por Sacr0#4430 en 4 ene. 2019 6:11:53
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yakuza_ escribió:
i'm questioning on waiting on this person to get online for a 15% inc cyclone attack speed enchant or just buying a normal helmet. should i wait or focus on another enchantment such as arc chain or something?

I'd recommend you to get a helmet with "-lightning resistance to nearby enemies" affix. They are not that expensive and should provide better DPS increase.
Editado por útlima vez por forfun142857#1431 en 4 ene. 2019 6:29:41
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forfun142857 escribió:
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yakuza_ escribió:
i'm questioning on waiting on this person to get online for a 15% inc cyclone attack speed enchant or just buying a normal helmet. should i wait or focus on another enchantment such as arc chain or something?

I'd recommend you to get a helmet with "-lightning resistance to nearby enemies" affix. They are not that expensive and should provide better DPS increase.
the thing is with the helm i'm going to buy fills my resistances/needs for strength, plus a nice life roll. if i'm not mistaken the -res to nearby enemies is a suffix, the two resistances i need and str can't all fit on there. it's certainly something i'll remember when mixmaxing tho.
Playing this atm, tried to kill minotaur and i died, can you check my character and tell me what to improve on it? other then that its feels great to play it!

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