[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

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Solax escribió:

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Laraléy escribió:

Heya, so far enjoying this build, just having one struggle which are elem reflect maps. Is it just not possible to do it with this set up or am I doing something wrong? The only thing I haven't been able to get is 5L on my chest so I don't run blind. Thanks

The unique ring Sybil's Lament + minor pantheon Yugul + Sapphire Flask are your best bet against ele reflect maps. If stacking those 3 things don't keep you from dying, then you're bum outta luck :/

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Laraléy escribió:

Heya, so far enjoying this build, just having one struggle which are elem reflect maps. Is it just not possible to do it with this set up or am I doing something wrong? The only thing I haven't been able to get is 5L on my chest so I don't run blind. Thanks

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Med1umentor escribió:

Welp, i guess i should answer one by one:
1) We already use blind in our CwDT-ball lightning setup, so bosses permanently blinded anyway. It was so couple of years already, and you should know it, if you actually read the guide. It's also easier to acquire, than good shaped gloves.
2) Vaal pact is worth it. 100% so. There is some people who didn't like it, cause "no regen" isn't for anyone. But it's just preferences, if you remove such nonsense and just look at it from the "game mechanic side of view", VP is superior until you can get regen to about 15-20%, which would be costly in more ways than one. Just sorrow of divine isn't going to cut it, for tanking something that you was supposed to tank like dangerous mod guardians, or shaper's beam etc
3) I guess it's doable now, when we don't use avatar of fire, but you really underestimating power of "flat int", and especially "% increased attributes".
I checked in PoB, vaal regalia 500 ES with crafted "% attributes" (which now easily attainable without even "shaper base") and some int, have only 1% less damage than incadescent heart, and about 2k ES more which is HUGE. And the worse your other gear is, the worse it feels. If we are talking about proper shaper's base vaal reagalia with 12% attributes, it crush incandescent heart with flying colors.
And no, rather than having -25% elemental damage, i would rather have 25% more ES (which is exactly how much we sacrifing with that switch). And it works only with hits.
I guess it's not a bad option, if you don't have money at all, but at 70 lvl, at this point i would rather go into vaal regalia route. Also, you can probably snatch additional resists on it.
4) We already have more than enough duration through skill tree and int stacking. Even that already is quite questionable, some people even removing those at some point. No way it worth "% int", but as "not useless corruption" it can get passing mark.
5) Chilling ground is still just a chilling ground. It have only 10% slow from chill. It's good enough to proc hypothermia, but not good enough for actual "chill".
If you are not linking damage gem to winter orb, there is no way it actually have enough to help you to freeze/shatter stuff good enough, so it's not an option too.
More damage - yeah, but that occultist version design was all about "additional survivability through occultist defenses+chill, for the expenses of damage".

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vector84 escribió:

So looking over your setup... I'm confused about the presence of an Arakaali setup (CWDT+BR+IC).

In your setup, wouldn't Arakaali only apply to the ES recovery granted by your flasks (Atziri+Sorrow)? Which means even in an ideal scenario your Arakaali procs are only adding like 600 ES/sec?

I feel like I would want to just drop Blood Rage entirely at that point? Then you could work around having Wicked Ward up more often, or something like that?


Having said that, seems to me that Vaal Pact setups are still recovering ES at nearly twice the rate you do under full flask effect... seems pretty worth it to me if your aspirations are to face tank most things... I tried to work out a Zealot's Oath based variant before they nerfed Mastermind, but it always seemed to me like it would lose too much.

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Powerlenny escribió:

1. Character has VP and gets 6k ES/second from Leech (20% of max ES * 2 * 1,5) and 2,25k ES/second (50 * 30 * 1,5) from ESoH. = 8,25k ES/second
2. Character don't has VP and gets 3k ES/second from Leech (20% of max ES * 1,5), 0,75k ES/second from Sorrow of the Divine (5% of max ES * 1,5) and 2,25k ES/second from ESoH. = 6k ES/second.

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vector84 escribió:

The problem with ignoring the leech pool change is that changes don't happen in a vacuum and the pathing to Vaal Pact in this build is actually highly efficient due to the use of Fertile Mind jewels (and the fact that Int scales everything for this build and is the most efficient thing to invest in, at least up to around 1800 int).

And your napkin math is fuzzy - using PoB on your profile:
1539 leech cap + 462 regen = 2001 ES/sec * 0.5 (Arakaali) - 308 (Blood Rage) = 700 ES/sec