[3.8] FreezeFinder - (Retro) [Blade Vortex + Vaal Cold snap] - [All Content]

Hi

really good build, I have played with this build half month.just wonder could you please post your idea about crafting ultimate rare weapon for replacing doryani?

Thx!

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shuaiziyoa escribió:

Hi

really good build, I have played with this build half month.just wonder could you please post your idea about crafting ultimate rare weapon for replacing doryani?

Thx!

Hi there, Thank you.

If you were looking to craft your own weapon, I would use 2 options myself personally.

Scepter Base (Highest Potential DPS with a perfect 6 Affix roll)
Shaped Void Scepter Base i85 - [Aetheric + Prismatic Fossil].

The higher DPS options are actually the physical as extra element, and elemental as chaos rolls.
A scepter with all % Physical --> Element rolls is no longer competitive, particularly because scepters only have access to --> % fire and -->% Lightning.
Void scepter is highest DPS base scepter as we are reaching diminishing returns on penetration.

Dagger Base (High potential DPS, Block, Easier to craft)
Shaped Sai Dagger Base i84 - [Aetheric + Frigid Fossil]

Because we have access to Phys --> %Cold, we can use the Frigid Fossil to force more cold rolls, daggers have a much lower base mod pool than scepters also, making the craft easier on two fronts.

This would come at a loss of attack speed, cast speed, and elemental proliferation, and non conditional leech in the context of the Void scepter as it can utalise all 6 affix slots for damage.

The dagger version would still give access to an attack speed or cast speed roll but still at a loss of elemental proliferation and none conditional leech.

For myself personally, the increases in single target damage VS the loss of clear speed, move speed, cast speed and leech just weren't worth it. The builds nails any single target in the game with ease, so I preferred keeping the catalyst for it's other benefits.

I have included the test items in the PoB Link

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mfeeney87 escribió:

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shuaiziyoa escribió:

Hi

really good build, I have played with this build half month.just wonder could you please post your idea about crafting ultimate rare weapon for replacing doryani?

Thx!

Hi there, Thank you.

If you were looking to craft your own weapon, I would use 2 options myself personally.

Scepter Base (Highest Potential DPS with a perfect 6 Affix roll)
Shaped Void Scepter Base i85 - [Aetheric + Prismatic Fossil].

The higher DPS options are actually the physical as extra element, and elemental as chaos rolls.
A scepter with all % Physical --> Element rolls is no longer competitive, particularly because scepters only have access to --> % fire and -->% Lightning.
Void scepter is highest DPS base scepter as we are reaching diminishing returns on penetration.

Dagger Base (High potential DPS, Block, Easier to craft)
Shaped Sai Dagger Base i84 - [Aetheric + Frigid Fossil]

Because we have access to Phys --> %Cold, we can use the Frigid Fossil to force more cold rolls, daggers have a much lower base mod pool than scepters also, making the craft easier on two fronts.

This would come at a loss of attack speed, cast speed, and elemental proliferation, and non conditional leech in the context of the Void scepter as it can utalise all 6 affix slots for damage.

The dagger version would still give access to an attack speed or cast speed roll but still at a loss of elemental proliferation and none conditional leech.

For myself personally, the increases in single target damage VS the loss of clear speed, move speed, cast speed and leech just weren't worth it. The builds nails any single target in the game with ease, so I preferred keeping the catalyst for it's other benefits.

I have included the test items in the PoB Link

Hi there, thank you for the reply!

I agree with ur conclusion with weapon choice, to solve the life and mana leeching problem, there must a WARLORD'S MASK roll elder ring, which is expensive and will lose lot of resists if binding with mark of shaper ring.

And, I recently tried to deal with uber elder, died a lot, not as easy as that in your uber elder video. although I know I am abit of lacking damage. could you please help out of which stats should I focus on next for my char for uber elder? and how would you deal with the squid spawns? the BV area is too small to catch with these spawns quickly meanwhile to dodge the casts from the two bosses, if not, the spawns will drop physical dmg overtime area which is quite deadly to me.

here is the POB
https://pastebin.com/yv0XRqCD

This char is almost 93, and i will regret out the life node and 30 dex node to go with the 10 dex and socket node besides ranger, so that i can put in watcher eye (only can afford single hatred mod watcher eye though.)

Very long reply, appreciate if you can read through.

Oh BTW, how much of the possibility we can chill shaper and elder without being hit? I mean,do we have enough one hit damage to chill the boss enemy?

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shuaiziyoa escribió:

Hi there, thank you for the reply!

I agree with ur conclusion with weapon choice, to solve the life and mana leeching problem, there must a WARLORD'S MASK roll elder ring, which is expensive and will lose lot of resists if binding with mark of shaper ring.

And, I recently tried to deal with uber elder, died a lot, not as easy as that in your uber elder video. although I know I am abit of lacking damage. could you please help out of which stats should I focus on next for my char for uber elder? and how would you deal with the squid spawns? the BV area is too small to catch with these spawns quickly meanwhile to dodge the casts from the two bosses, if not, the spawns will drop physical dmg overtime area which is quite deadly to me.

here is the POB
https://pastebin.com/yv0XRqCD

This char is almost 93, and i will regret out the life node and 30 dex node to go with the 10 dex and socket node besides ranger, so that i can put in watcher eye (only can afford single hatred mod watcher eye though.)

Very long reply, appreciate if you can read through.

Oh BTW, how much of the possibility we can chill shaper and elder without being hit? I mean,do we have enough one hit damage to chill the boss enemy?

Hi mate just been really busy with work past few days but will get back in more detail, from quick glance your fire resist is quite out of balance, I'd probably prioratise balancing fire / lightning for wise oak defense.

Other than that the UE fight is a very mechanical fight, sometimes just takes some practice with the phases, it can seem very chaotic at first but does becomes more clear with experience.

Your gear and setup is honestly really decent.

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mfeeney87 escribió:

Hi mate just been really busy with work past few days but will get back in more detail, from quick glance your fire resist is quite out of balance, I'd probably prioratise balancing fire / lightning for wise oak defense.

Other than that the UE fight is a very mechanical fight, sometimes just takes some practice with the phases, it can seem very chaotic at first but does becomes more clear with experience.

Your gear and setup is honestly really decent.

Thanks again for the reply.

I just done UE last night! I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW EXCITED I WAS and even now!

turns out if you got enough damage, the fight is much shorter and of course easier. for increasing damage and slow down (move too fast makes me step on area effects and casts from bosses from time to time), I swap out rumi and quick silver to Atziri's promise and 40% damage flask.

And I got this awesome simulator for UE fight, hope it can help for anyone who is in need:
https://poesimulator.github.io/

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shuaiziyoa escribió:

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mfeeney87 escribió:

Hi mate just been really busy with work past few days but will get back in more detail, from quick glance your fire resist is quite out of balance, I'd probably prioratise balancing fire / lightning for wise oak defense.

Other than that the UE fight is a very mechanical fight, sometimes just takes some practice with the phases, it can seem very chaotic at first but does becomes more clear with experience.

Your gear and setup is honestly really decent.

Thanks again for the reply.

I just done UE last night! I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW EXCITED I WAS and even now!

turns out if you got enough damage, the fight is much shorter and of course easier. for increasing damage and slow down (move too fast makes me step on area effects and casts from bosses from time to time), I swap out rumi and quick silver to Atziri's promise and 40% damage flask.

And I got this awesome simulator for UE fight, hope it can help for anyone who is in need:
https://poesimulator.github.io/

Awesome dude well done! And yeah there is definately a DPS check element to the UE and Shaper fights.

Where would you put the last 3 points if someone decided to go for lvl100? I do see some ele/cold damage around the Frost Walker node. Could also go for another jewel slot?

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SiNTiX_ escribió:

Where would you put the last 3 points if someone decided to go for lvl100? I do see some ele/cold damage around the Frost Walker node. Could also go for another jewel slot?

I'd think I would personally take the jewel socket, by this point we have exhausted most of the really efficient nodes. But there is a decent argument for a Pandemonious corruption which I will explain.

I would personally take the 5% HP node above "Cruel Preparation".
And then you have a choice between the jewel socket above "Sentinel" as the cold resist will directly translate into more evasion rating, the lightning resist will alleviate a little more pressure from gear where in a min maxing scenario may be able to free up another suffix, however it might require a gear rebalancing of wise oak if you hav balanced it.

OR

Take the 5% HP node above "Cruel Preparation" and then 3 Point investment into Survivalist, which increases max cold resist by 1%, some more all resist and a decent amount of % Evasion rating. Obviously thats at an opportunity cost of the damage and flat life you can achieve from another jewel socket.

OR

Another option would be to invest 2 points into "Frost walker", and 2 point's into "Precision" - This would enable you to meet dex requirements as long as you have a 9%+ DEX Perfect form without the Pandemonious implicit, and still provides cast speed and move speed.
The point being it would open up the availability of double corrupting the pandemonious implicit.

"Frost Walker" is a decent 2 point value.
"Path of the warrior" is an OK 1 point value.

Sorry for the delay in reply.

Whoops, it is actually 4 points thank you for pointing that out. Amazing reply, thank you for the options. I will mess around with it in PoB.

Hey, ended up doing a stress test of this build in this league, which I didn't see much of in this thread. At the time of posting this, all of my gear costs around 50 chaos in total. A lot of my items were crafted/essence crafted/lucky drops, so if you wanted to purchase everything I would say it still comes out to less than 100 chaos. The only item really driving up the total price is the 30 chaos Taste of Hate.

I haven't picked up a wise oak yet because I wanted to test how the build fairs with less penetration and not having to worry about balancing fire/lightning resistances. Also with no helmet enchant due to lower costs and my helmet being an incredibly lucky find, the cold leech is definitely not necessary, but it feels nice to have.

So, gear and jewels:


With this gear I was able to do all Shaper and (yellow) Elder Guardians deathless, complete the Mastermind fight, Delve to 200 (so far) with zero deaths, and run every map mod except Ele Reflect. Even with Ele Reflect you can swap your Pantheon and slowly clear the map a few monsters at a time if it's a red map you really need to clear.

My passive tree is a bit less optimized and takes Purity Of Flesh and some extra life/random nodes instead of going up to Breath Of Rime and Heart Of Ice. This was because even at 6.7k effective health I was still getting one-shot by Tora/It That Fled occasionally (pretty much the only thing I would die to), so I grabbed Purity Of Flesh and made Atziri's Promise one of my main flasks pretty early on.

So, being able to do all content up to the big endgame bosses (Shaper/Elder) is a pretty big win for this build considering how not optimized my setup is in terms of damage and penetration compared to the normal build. I don't feel confident doing Shaper/Uber Elder with this setup, so the test is gonna end there. Highly recommend this build for anyone who wants a Blade Vortex character that can be extremely effective at any price point.