{3.10} Speaker for the Dead | The Mass Minion Summoner | League Starter, Leveling Guide 💀

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IchiMorghulis escribió:

So, I've been playing in Ziz's HC Ascendant only league for the last few days and I just made it to maps. I had never made it all the way to maps in HC or SC without dying at least once, so its a new accomplishment for me.

So why am I posting an Ascendant build here? Well, I adapted Hercanic's build node for node once I spec into the witches start after Merciless lab.

This build is so good that I easily made it to and killed Act 10 Kitava with really bad gears. During most of the leveling process I was 20% to 40% below cap. I did merciless lab just before the Kitava fight and the chest at the end dropped an Aurumvorax, perfect to cap my resist before Kitava.

Here's my gears going into maps

The sceptre and boots was what I had before the Aurumvorax dropped.

The league is modified to not drop Magic and Rare items and this makes crafting and upgrading really difficult. Alts and Transmutes are really hard to come by. I ended up doing every Blight encounter to hoard currencies and essences for end game crafting.

I really enjoy the no magic/rare drop modifiers, it forces you plan differently. It's fun and frustrating at the same time.

edit: Just died doing Piercing Truth

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Tigytallpants escribió:

I found an Intuitive Leap gem... any recommendations on where to put it?
A place where I can get more ES to cover removing Discipline, so i can sub in Skitterbots would be good. Otherwise a spot where there are many nodes so I can free up some more passive points. Suggestions?

Edit: Scrap that bit about removing Discipline. I have and ES on Hit WE so removing discipline will be a very bad idea.

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Hercanic escribió:

10% of Life as Extra ES craft = ~1000 ES.

100% ES with 100 ES = 789 + 660 ES = 1449 total.

100% ES without flat ES = 489 ES.

100 ES without %ES = 360-384 ES (20-28% quality).

100 life = ~300 life + 75 ES (Spirit Offering) + 50 ES (10% craft) = 425 total, plus benefit of more ES heal per second.

Thus, the best with:
2 prefixes = 1425 from Life and 10% craft.
3 prefixes = 2449 from ES, %ES, and 10% craft.

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Kirian42 escribió:

So I ended up buying a chest with +100 ES, +66% ES, +113 Life, +8% Life. It came with a high INT/Quality craft on it, and I'm unsure if that's worth replacing.

Still trying to figure out the sixth link here. POB seems to want me to grab Cold Pen, which is interesting.

Full POB here if anyone wants to examine/critique/laugh:

https://pastebin.com/ngVknBcA

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Hercanic escribió:

Since Phantasms deal physical damage, Cold Triad boosts their damage even further relative to Spectres. They deal about 90k each (vs. Shaper). Frost Sentinels deal about 127k each in first stage and 190k in second stage of Ice Spear. So 2 Phantasms = 1 Frost Sentinel.

Spell Echo would be 55% more DPS for Frost Sentinels. This would put them at 296k (3.3 Phantasms = 1 Frost Sentinel). But they wouldn't have Pierce like Phantasms, or Chain to hit around corners, which is similar to how Phantasms function when they spawn in the middle of a pack through a doorway.

90k x11 = 990k
190k x4 = 760k
Total = 1,750k

296k x4 = 1,184k but no pierce/chain.

This means Phantasms give me 48% more damage along with piercing and psuedo-chaining. They are also more reliable as I run ahead and minions spawn on me like a centipede. More minions = smoother spread (number of steps before something pops in to engage the closest monsters).

With enough souls, Soul Eater will overcome the 48% damage difference (~100% cast speed each, so 20 souls x4 Spectres = 80 absorbed kills). but it's less consistent and can't overcome terrain obstructions. If instead of Spell Echo we used Pierce or Chain, we'd have an even bigger damage deficit to overcome with Soul Eater.

92% more vs. Pierce = ~184% cast speed needed = 37 souls each = 147 kills
156% more vs. Chain = ~312% cast speed needed = 62 souls each = 250 kills

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woefulwabbit escribió:

Thank you!

The results should be similar with Grip of the Council? Guess I will switch back to Phantasms.

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mrjonno escribió:

Played Path of Exile for a few years on and off and managed to kill the Shaper and Elder for the first time with this build.

What I like about this build is its survivability and friendliness to fat fingers slow reaction old people like me (well 47).

I do think however with 250 odd pages it really does need a new thread as its somewhat confusing to follow

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Hologram_o escribió:

Yes you can include my UE kill video (OG version since 3.7) in your guide. This version has +7k life and has Acro/Phase Acro. The Triad Grip version seems to look more tanky or do more dmg, Idk. I don't use Dash/Cyclone but the UE kill video with Triad Grip seems to make things look a lot easier, while I had to press buttons quite a bit more and playstyle looked a bit more exhausting.

I don't think there's any further HoA nerf in terms of decay rate, it wasn't mentioned in patch notes at all. Maybe this has to do with me moving more often and forgetting that Skeletons now are a lot tankier than before (my 11 skeletons have about 16k life with capped resists, which is more than double from 3.7). I also kinda forgot to cast skeletons more often and was busy with Ball Lightning to keep up the agony crawler (while his video shows him casting Skeletons more often and just runs around while his minions do the work).

UPDATE: I have come to a decision to get rid of CWDT + Spirit Offering. Sure it does help against certain things during maps but completely useless against big boss fights that do not leave any corpses. In replacement I slot in Precision lv 1 linked to Generosity and Vaal Grace, while keeping both Shield Charge and Flame Dash. Aside from Precision (my minions already do enough dmg) I am thinking of Stone Golem or Chaos Golem to replace it. It seems to me Stone Golem is very good and probably can edge Chaos golem.

On a meme note, the last gem slot I have can be reserved for Animate Weapon? What do you think of this meme idea? I can have up to 50 animate weapons that move alongside me, beefing up to the total of 130 minions total with Vaal Skeletons. I checked with PoB and each Animate Weapon will have around 38k life total (ilv 86 weapon) with capped ele resists. While this looks to be a solid number, I'm not sure if they'll be able to survive everything especially rippy T16s and stuff, but from what I read resummoning these dudes is painful as hell, as I have to look for ilv 86 weapons to maximize their life. Right? Or a lower ilv like 83 won't affect their total life?

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tkwondave escribió:

What would be the suggested 5l for going the triad grip route? Probably with frosties, but open for better suggestions there as well.

Edit: I'm also a little confused as for how we use the gems in our gloves and would appreciate a little help on that. Is phase run just for running faster? Do we need to hit our targets with whirling blades? What's the benefit of smoke mine? Sorry if these are newb questions or already answered before. I read through some 20 pages but couldn't find the answers there.

Thanks a lot!