[3.8] A CI/LL Tri-Curse Herald of Agony Occultist [Deathless Uber Elder, League Starter]

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TeosMaoMao escribió:
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Thanarchy escribió:


@Jialen We get at 74 dex from the tree and +30 from soul strike. thats 104 dex and we need 159 total for a lvl 21 HoA. So the rest you get with items but if not just spend a point or 2 on +30 dex nodes we got 2 we can grab from the tree.



ooooh! okay thx!
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TeosMaoMao escribió:


This is my PoB from my live betrayal char. I got a lvl 21 gem already (was lvling 9 HoAs from the start).Its not only the HoAg that gets +1 level its all gems that benefit from it thats why its so good.

https://pastebin.com/DtwCpDNi


@ TeosMaoMao

For your passive tree, can I suggest to take out one of the "10% increased minion damage" at the start of the Witch (they are the weakest nodes for the Crawler anyway) and the +10 intelligence North-East of "Written in Blood" to take the full cluster of "Written in Blood" by beginning South-West (where we are heading for "Coldhearted Calculation" anyway).

If you really do not want to take out a "10% increased minion damage", you could still respec a 6% increased Energy Shield node, as this node and the +10 intelligence represents a total of 8% ES (as 10 int is 2% ES), whereas the 2 remaining nodes of the "Written in Blood" cluster go for 10% ES.

I know it's only a 2% ES gain, but it will help you go through the 10k ES mark ! :-)


I'll suggest this change to Vatinas as well for the OP
Editado por útlima vez por El_Pakito#4157 en 14 dic. 2018 4:26:05
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El_Pakito escribió:

@ TeosMaoMao

For your passive tree, can I suggest to take out one of the "10% increased minion damage" at the start of the Witch (they are the weakest nodes for the Crawler anyway) and the +10 intelligence North-East of "Written in Blood" to take the full cluster of "Written in Blood" by beginning South-West (where we are heading for "Coldhearted Calculation" anyway).

If you really do not want to take out a "10% increased minion damage", you could still respec a 6% increased Energy Shield node, as this node and the +10 intelligence represents a total of 8% ES (as 10 int is 2% ES), whereas the 2 remaining nodes of the "Written in Blood" cluster go for 10% ES.

I know it's only a 2% ES gain, but it will help you go through the 10k ES mark ! :-)


I'll suggest this change to Vatinas as well for the OP


Yeps those are the best changes to maximize efficiency on tree, thnx for pointing out so that others dont follow that exact tree, on my delve char i dont have the +10 minion node and i refuse to grab the life and ES nodes for that +2% when im missing 150 ES on Boots or another 100 on helm or 50 on gloves and 40 on amu. Still work in progress but i think im gonna min max this one when all is said and done.

I forgot to mention for viru stacking its all about math really.
With Quill you have 4.6aps and with the bow i use you got 3 aps and with darkscorn you get 2.1. Since we are double stacking poison now with the jewel any bow that has above 2.3 APS will get you the same virulence stack thats why Darkscorn failed to keep up but a short bow doesnt. Even without the AS mod on it a short bow is exactly at 2.3 Aps which in theory should keep up with a quill rain without a golden rule jewel which was already dealing with Uelders and whatnot with ease.
Hi there! Thank you very much for this great build, I'm having plenty of fun with it! Love the idea of a pet annihilating stuff around me! Love fast walking instead of banging into walls with clumsy shield charge!

Got a few newb questions:

1)how much ES should I expect to reach with a good ES armor? I ran with ~11600 in Skin of the Loyal so far and I don't know if I should shop for a fancy ES armor and pay a fortune for fusings.

2) I was annihilating stuff with ease until I was killed by a t6 Constrictor. He killed my ~9500 ES twice in a strange way. 1st time my ES started to go down, I panicked and tried to run, but failed to start the recharge due to some damage over time. 2nd time he just ripped through ~9500 ES in like 2 seconds. 3rd time I came and was able to faceroll dps him without taking any noticeable damage at all. What mechanics were killing me and what did I do right on the 3rd time?


Also my very 1st low tier elder dropped me this jewel


Is it really as good as I think it is? Because I kinda feel myself as close to dropping a mirror as I ever was.






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Fortran775 escribió:
Hi there! Thank you very much for this great build, I'm having plenty of fun with it! Love the idea of a pet annihilating stuff around me! Love fast walking instead of banging into walls with clumsy shield charge!

Got a few newb questions:

1)how much ES should I expect to reach with a good ES armor? I ran with ~11600 in Skin of the Loyal so far and I don't know if I should shop for a fancy ES armor and pay a fortune for fusings.

2) I was annihilating stuff with ease until I was killed by a t6 Constrictor. He killed my ~9500 ES twice in a strange way. 1st time my ES started to go down, I panicked and tried to run, but failed to start the recharge due to some damage over time. 2nd time he just ripped through ~9500 ES in like 2 seconds. 3rd time I came and was able to faceroll dps him without taking any noticeable damage at all. What mechanics were killing me and what did I do right on the 3rd time?


Also my very 1st low tier elder dropped me this jewel


Is it really as good as I think it is? Because I kinda feel myself as close to dropping a mirror as I ever was.


Hi! :)

1) For comparison, with my current gear (the gear in the PoB file), you would have 10.6K ES with Skin of the Loyal, and 12.3K with a 600 ES Vaal Regalia. So I would say Skin of the Loyal is a great way to have a cheap 6L with decent ES and easy off-colours, but ultimately a high ES rare is better.

2) To be honest, I don't really know, I've never encountered this situation... The Constrictor deals a lot of chaos damage, so he should be one of the easiest guardians, in theory. I'm sorry, but I don't really know what to say; maybe you could try to record your fight next time so we can take a closer look?

Congrats on your Watcher's Eye, it's insane! I don't know how much it can be worth exactly, but it's a lot. (If you want to use it for your build, remember to use a lvl 1 Clarity!)
@Fortran775 For the constrictor there might be a few possible things that killed you, the frogs exploding, his volley arrow attack which hits hard if you dont move out of the way, and the cold dot bubbles that prevent you from starting the es recharge or any combo of the above..the rest can be facetanked.

And grats on the jewel it fits perfeclty on this build or you can sell it to get nice gear.
Do you guys have a clue how to deal with "proximity shield"?
I find it rather hard to navigate the crawler in the shield.
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xXShoboXx escribió:
Do you guys have a clue how to deal with "proximity shield"?
I find it rather hard to navigate the crawler in the shield.


Most annoying thing about this build. You need to get on top of the mob inside the bubble and use convocation skill to recall the crawler in the bubble.
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xXShoboXx escribió:
Do you guys have a clue how to deal with "proximity shield"?
I find it rather hard to navigate the crawler in the shield.

Hard to navigate the crawler into the shield? You can navigate the shield to the crawler! At least my solution was to push the shielded mob to my pet with knockback that comes from projectile weakness. Now I've read about convocation and gonna give it a try)
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xXShoboXx escribió:
Do you guys have a clue how to deal with "proximity shield"?
I find it rather hard to navigate the crawler in the shield.


Convocation helps there.
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