[3.17] Hybrid's Molten Strike Jugg - Hold right click to TANK anything |MELT the Atlas|Divine Flesh|

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ffhighwind escribió:

A) You don't have a section on why you chose this Ascendancy over others.
B) I'm rolling Nebulochs instead of Grelwood Shanks and need the regen to offset the degen.
C) Can't afford 9ex Xoph's Blood. I could but I don't want to sell off my alt. I realize Avatar of Fire is an option, but I'm not sure how "Deal no Non-Fire Damage" interacts with scaling of these weapons.
D) PoB sucks for calculating molten strike DPS, so it's probably going to come down to in-game testing to compare. Of the little testing I did it came out about twice the DPS as Juggernaut. I don't think I factored in Elemental Overload, Nebulochs, or Abyssus into the comparison, though. Might still be able to work EO in with The Effigon, Purity Herald with Blind, blind jewels, and a Stibnite flask.
D) I don't see Flammability curse in this build. I'd probably throw it on CWDT if I did follow this build, though. Alternatively there's curse-on-hit ele weakness gloves but then you lose intimidate.

Elemental resistance isn't a problem for Chieftan considering you can basically ignore fire resistance with Dying Sun. You also get plenty of resistance from Endurance charges and Wise Oak.

Jugg will be more tanky but I have no idea where you're getting Jugg has more DPS. Either way I can always respec for 40 regrets down the road.

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ffhighwind escribió:

EDIT: Used PoB for comparison and decided on the Chieftan variant.

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ReclessSafa escribió:

Not sure if it's been said but if you want to be more tanky could go for the fortify on hit corrupt on sword.

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hybridboy escribió:

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ffhighwind escribió:

A- Jugg just works best for that build.
like, every ascen node sits perfectly with the playstyle.
"Undeniable" gives ton of damage and attack speed, plus you dont need to worry about accuracy anymore.
"Unstoppable" is such a QOL node that i cant imagine myself playing without it.
"Unbreakable" is a strong defensive node, nothing else to say here.
"Unflinching" is an easy source of endurance charges, also keeps them up all the time.

B- So you are not really playing my build.
also grelwood shank is the best weapon here, anything else would be slower and\or weaker.

C- Avatar of fire converts other types of damage to fire, so you have 100% phyz conversion.

D- i will just say it, there is no way you are doing double the dps.
you lose so much damage when you give up on grelwood shank.
1. you lose so much attack speed, which also what makes this build feel so good.
2. you lose +2 balls, which is huge dps loss.
3. you lose Point Blank which is another massive dps loss.

its funny that you say POB sucks for dps calc but in the last page you wrote:

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ffhighwind escribió:

EDIT: Used PoB for comparison and decided on the Chieftan variant.

at least come up with a POB link to back up your claims.

i dont use it to calc my actual dps, but i can test gear\ways to boost the damage relative to a base line.

A shaper video will be up today, you tell me if it really needs more dps.
so even if (somehow) you are doing more damage you lose the smoothness of the build when you swap grelwood shank with nebuloch.

D2 (E?)- Curses are only effective against non-boss monsters, but you dont need damage boost against those plus its not consistence.
Bosses (especially endgame like elder\shaper) have up to 80% reduced curse effect, so its basically useless on them.

i talked about ele weakness on hit corruption in the gear section.

I will be running 1 Grelwood for mapping... maybe 2 for lower maps. It's around 5 passives to grab Point Blank when going dual Nebuloch. The Chieftan variant was RT (non-crit), no accuracy needed. I already said it probably wasn't a 100% fair comparison for PoB considering I didn't bother optimizing both builds. I will probably end up testing the two builds if/when I make it to level 90+, but I'm not going to be using a 7L helmet.

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monkeyman1188 escribió:

Hey man,

Your prismatic jewel, Watchers eye.
the stat 1.22% of fire damage leeched as life.

Is that fire damage that you do or the fire damage that you take?

trying to find the right jewels and working out whether what they say is right for me.

cheers in advance.

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weisenheimer escribió:

I have two Wildfire jewels, along with a couple of rares that follow your recommendations. The passive tree itself is completely from your images, save that I didn't spend the points for Elemental Overload.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?