[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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HatMatter escribió:

Hey guys, quick question for everyone running the triple offering build: How do you manage making Zombies and particularly Spectres?

Almost all the corpses spawned by desecrate are used up by the offerings, making it possible to get some zombies if you spam cast, but it's really hard actually targeting a corpse to raise as spectre.

Unequipping the Offering Wand is not really an option, as I lose +1 to all minion gems, lowering the max. number of specres to 3 again. How do you guys circumvent this annoyance?

Unequip the offering gems when u summon your minions ... unless you mean they die during maps and u need to resummon them regularly - in which case ... figure out how to rise your minions' hp/resists because that should not happen.

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Dragomirov escribió:

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Vendetta escribió:

It's ok, I am melting every boss with the phys one without having uber gear.

I did invest a lot in my gear ( probably this was my most invested gear overall) , did get scammed on a major investment for some awakened jewels ( but that is just another story).

Wanted to check some variants to see some explosions going off and there.

I just want to find a way to avoid using the AG while keeping the build as I have it, I get to panic when I see him go down in life and it's not worth it to just always be panicked in a game.

I didn't bother checking, but by this point I'm pretty sure all the guys reporting AG dipping in health or even dying are not linking him to Meat Shield to keep him in defensive behaviour, or even linking him to Feeding Frenzy. Minions linked to feeding frenzy will die on physical reflect maps and physical reflect Metamorphs (some Metamorphs have it even though the map doesn't).
The AG should be sticking next to you in Meat Shield for you to properly benefit from its auras.
Yes, freak Metamorphs happen (I had roughly 1% of the Meta I did who were very rippy without warning sign), but in these rare cases you should be dying way before your AG even starts to dip. You have way less health than him.

I'd just like to point out that even at lvl 27 gem (100k hp and around 22k regen) in some double-triple beyond maps and deep delve I will actually see him dip 20-30%. So you can definitely see him dip a bit at times if you are pushing the build far, but in those cases it's probably a channeled attack doing a burst of damage (and hence can't be spammed) which means that dipping itself isn't that bad because the enemy is either dead or AG is back at full hp come the next rotation. I think people just generally panic when they see hp going down, even though very very few things in the game deal enough damage to even theoretically burst through that much hp and are able to sustain damage through regen.

Decided to give this a try on hardcore. Currently level 89. About the only things I have done differently are

Ascendancy order: Mindless Aggression > Unnatural Strength > Mistress of Sacrifice > Bone Barrier (I switched up Bone Barrier and Mistress of Sacrifice)

Didn't run uber lab till 88 because it took me that long to get all the trials.

Running a shield on secondary for the defense.

By no means am I pushing things or trying to do crazy map mods. Hoping to get to 90 on hardcore for the achievement.

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Arondos escribió:

Decided to give this a try on hardcore. Currently level 89. About the only things I have done differently are

Ascendancy order: Mindless Aggression > Unnatural Strength > Mistress of Sacrifice > Bone Barrier (I switched up Bone Barrier and Mistress of Sacrifice)

Didn't run uber lab till 88 because it took me that long to get all the trials.

Running a shield on secondary for the defense.

By no means am I pushing things or trying to do crazy map mods. Hoping to get to 90 on hardcore for the achievement.

Let us know! I have over 200 deaths. :)

hi guys i change something my build but i think like i m dying tho much(tiers 13/14/15 yellow.


i have 5900hp and 600mana unreserved.
i m not sure what can i do.

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Adeeek escribió:

hi guys i change something my build but i think like i m dying tho much(tiers 13/14/15 yellow.

i have 5900hp and 600mana unreserved.
i m not sure what can i do.

read the guide, get better gear, you don't even have a craft on your chest
>.<

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Adeeek escribió:

hi guys i change something my build but i think like i m dying tho much(tiers 13/14/15 yellow.

i have 5900hp and 600mana unreserved.
i m not sure what can i do.

Okay So I'm look at your character in PoB here are your stats.

With the configuration set up right you have
HP:5,866
Energy Shield:510
Mana Unreservered 451
Skeleton DPS 550,479.5 (this is per skeleton note. so you are good here. You have more than me.)

Now what can you do to increase survivability. Not much really unfortunately.

You can't go Mind Over Matter. To do this you would have to Drop Pride respec at minimum 10 to 15 points and also have to get some maximum mana rolls on gear for it to work.

The other option I see is to get a Glorious Vanity Jewel that has Doryani in it it will say something like "Bathed in the blood of # sacrificed in the name of Doryani"

Here is a link to those jewels on the trade website
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Metamorph/4W0p7gc9

What this will do (incase you don't know) is i when you socket it into the passive tree it will change the nods in a radius around it. You will want to get one of the nodes I list below it will change it to a node called Corrupted Soul. What this does is give you 20% of your Maximum Life as Energy Shield which is a great amount. Your Energy Shield will go from 510 to 1,976. Which is a great increase in survivability.

The're 2 places that you can socket it. There is a socket above Resolute Technique. You placing it there will cost you 7 skill points that you would have to respec or level for.

The second place to put it is over next to Pain Attunement. Placing it there will cost you 6 Skill points so is really the better option.

Now you may ask what to respec points from and here is where you're going to have to spend some currency if you want the easy way. Go and buy the oils you need to put Ravenous Horde on your amulet.

What Oils you need for that are 1 Verdant Oil and 2 Opalescent Oil.

You may already have them if so great if not here is a link to them:
Opalescent Oil https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Metamorph/5nMEldDTa

Verdant Oil https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Metamorph/5nMEldDTa

With that you should also have more skill points to put elsewhere.

So this is really the only really viable way that I can see to increase your survivability. Maybe someone will have more for you but this is what I see.

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Adeeek escribió:

hi guys i change something my build but i think like i m dying tho much(tiers 13/14/15 yellow.

i have 5900hp and 600mana unreserved.
i m not sure what can i do.

If you could post a POB then it would make it a little easier.

I can't see where you are getting chaos resist from, none of your gear seems to have any. This league has a lot of rippy chaos damage, and I would think you are still in the negative resist? Mine is +40 and I still think I'd like to improve it a little.

Go back to page 276, there are 2 posts on that page that really go into detail on the way to build the character to be strong enough to go through to AL8 Sirus. Then decide if you want to stick to the original build, or go the multi offerings route. Decide how much you want to spend, then hit up trade to upgrade or start crafting.

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Dragomirov escribió:

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Vendetta escribió:

It's ok, I am melting every boss with the phys one without having uber gear.

I did invest a lot in my gear ( probably this was my most invested gear overall) , did get scammed on a major investment for some awakened jewels ( but that is just another story).

Wanted to check some variants to see some explosions going off and there.

I just want to find a way to avoid using the AG while keeping the build as I have it, I get to panic when I see him go down in life and it's not worth it to just always be panicked in a game.

I didn't bother checking, but by this point I'm pretty sure all the guys reporting AG dipping in health or even dying are not linking him to Meat Shield to keep him in defensive behaviour, or even linking him to Feeding Frenzy. Minions linked to feeding frenzy will die on physical reflect maps and physical reflect Metamorphs (some Metamorphs have it even though the map doesn't).
The AG should be sticking next to you in Meat Shield for you to properly benefit from its auras.
Yes, freak Metamorphs happen (I had roughly 1% of the Meta I did who were very rippy without warning sign), but in these rare cases you should be dying way before your AG even starts to dip. You have way less health than him.

mistake sorry

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Nutcase escribió:

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Adeeek escribió:

hi guys i change something my build but i think like i m dying tho much(tiers 13/14/15 yellow.

i have 5900hp and 600mana unreserved.
i m not sure what can i do.

If you could post a POB then it would make it a little easier.

I can't see where you are getting chaos resist from, none of your gear seems to have any. This league has a lot of rippy chaos damage, and I would think you are still in the negative resist? Mine is +40 and I still think I'd like to improve it a little.

Go back to page 276, there are 2 posts on that page that really go into detail on the way to build the character to be strong enough to go through to AL8 Sirus. Then decide if you want to stick to the original build, or go the multi offerings route. Decide how much you want to spend, then hit up trade to upgrade or start crafting.

my pob i change little bit now i have extra 1948ES

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