[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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varmemester escribió:

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Undisputed22 escribió:

So I made some tweaks to my build and wanted to get everyone's input on if it is viable endgame against the hardest content. Here are the core thing's in regards to my build.

-Keep MOM and Mana passives

-Switch from Mistress of sacrifice to Commander of Darkness (Lose Spirit offering casting on you but gain 30% minion damage 3% attack and cast speed for auras, 5% non curse aura boost, and 20 elemental resist)

-Socket Pride in an essence worm ring so we don't have to reserve mana. The extra resistance from Commander of darkness makes this is an easier pill to swallow.

-Ditch Spirit offering completely (since it doesn't work on us anymore) letting Flesh offering having full uptime.

-Ditch CWDT and Use a "trigger a socketed spell wand when you cast a spell" wand which I socket with Enfeeble, Flesh offering, and desecrate.

-Run Ahn's as a shield for survivability / shield charge for wand triggering.

-Switch back to Brutality from ruthless since we ditched Spirit offering and it's chaos damage boost.

-Annoint Ravenous Horde.

-Running AG with Kingmaker,Leer cast, Victarios for the aura boost.

-Run a Chaos Golem with Carrion for double boost.

-For my 4 Spectres I am taking 2 Carnage Chieftains, 1 Minerval's Retainer (50% Vulnerability Curse which follow's the 2 curse limit), and Ruins hellion for taunt with damage reduction and 10% damage boost (I am experimenting with this).


I think one of the main goals I wanted to accomplish is to finally draw a line in the sand when it comes to Spirit and Flesh offering instead of trying to juggle both mechanics. It sucks losing the shield boost but all of the other perks make it worth it in my eyes. I will also experiment with Doryani Jewels at some point but there are plenty of ways to make them work in this build.

Passive Tree Link:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/xbox/AAAABAMDAASzCPQLYRBREJcRDxEtFCAVJxZvGGoaOBpsHNweCCSqJbInLyqYLJwy0TWSNuk5CzlSOlg6xjrhOuk7DTs_PC09_EQERUdFnUb-R4VKn0yzTblN41BHU1JVxlYuWAdZ81qRXz9g-GEoYoZmVGaeZ3Fnm2jyahtqQ2qsa9ttGXIPfEt8g4Nfg8yD24UyhsqIQIm8i3aMsYzPjxqQM5BVlG-WdJhNmuCboZ69oOaiAKZXpqyofaqprJiuPq9stz686sBmxorGrsy80B_Tj9P72L3ZXt-K42rkUekC6-7sg-yK7w7v6_Af8kX2SPfX-tL-Cv6B_o_-sw==?accountName=Undisputed22&characterName=Lilith_BIack

Path of building link:
https://pastebin.com/GnnYL3Ex

My main concern would be for me and my minions to survive endgame content. I feel like I will probably need to find a way to get to indomitable army and may tweak that part as I level up. Obviously my gear needs work (Xbox doesn't have anywhere close to the items on the market that PC players have access to). I am hitting about 1.3 million per Skelly with what I would call decent gear and that isn't factoring in the Chaos Golem damage reduction, AG auras, and Ruins Hellion Damage boost. What is everyone's thoughts?

Interesting for sure. The overall feel I get from this is: Aggressive!

Also, I wonder if losing the extra spirit shield buff is worth doing over more dps? And how much dps? If extra Spirit Shield from Doryani is enough? I don't know.

I said before that I really like the idea of triggering desecrate and offering when you cast skeletons. The uptime will be great. Annulling a 1/1 wand is not gonna happen for me. Yikes. So will have to be content with a +1 wand=damage decrease.

Thanks for this input!! I believe some will say that this build already has great dps and more defence is better. But in a way offence is also defence. I look forward to hear how it feels.

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Undisputed22 escribió:

I've heard people swear by the charges but also people dismiss them as not accurate. Anyone know how accurate those numbers are and the uptime of charges?

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varmemester escribió:

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varmemester escribió:

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Undisputed22 escribió:

So I made some tweaks to my build and wanted to get everyone's input on if it is viable endgame against the hardest content. Here are the core thing's in regards to my build.

-Keep MOM and Mana passives

-Switch from Mistress of sacrifice to Commander of Darkness (Lose Spirit offering casting on you but gain 30% minion damage 3% attack and cast speed for auras, 5% non curse aura boost, and 20 elemental resist)

-Socket Pride in an essence worm ring so we don't have to reserve mana. The extra resistance from Commander of darkness makes this is an easier pill to swallow.

-Ditch Spirit offering completely (since it doesn't work on us anymore) letting Flesh offering having full uptime.

-Ditch CWDT and Use a "trigger a socketed spell wand when you cast a spell" wand which I socket with Enfeeble, Flesh offering, and desecrate.

-Run Ahn's as a shield for survivability / shield charge for wand triggering.

-Switch back to Brutality from ruthless since we ditched Spirit offering and it's chaos damage boost.

-Annoint Ravenous Horde.

-Running AG with Kingmaker,Leer cast, Victarios for the aura boost.

-Run a Chaos Golem with Carrion for double boost.

-For my 4 Spectres I am taking 2 Carnage Chieftains, 1 Minerval's Retainer (50% Vulnerability Curse which follow's the 2 curse limit), and Ruins hellion for taunt with damage reduction and 10% damage boost (I am experimenting with this).


I think one of the main goals I wanted to accomplish is to finally draw a line in the sand when it comes to Spirit and Flesh offering instead of trying to juggle both mechanics. It sucks losing the shield boost but all of the other perks make it worth it in my eyes. I will also experiment with Doryani Jewels at some point but there are plenty of ways to make them work in this build.

Passive Tree Link:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/xbox/AAAABAMDAASzCPQLYRBREJcRDxEtFCAVJxZvGGoaOBpsHNweCCSqJbInLyqYLJwy0TWSNuk5CzlSOlg6xjrhOuk7DTs_PC09_EQERUdFnUb-R4VKn0yzTblN41BHU1JVxlYuWAdZ81qRXz9g-GEoYoZmVGaeZ3Fnm2jyahtqQ2qsa9ttGXIPfEt8g4Nfg8yD24UyhsqIQIm8i3aMsYzPjxqQM5BVlG-WdJhNmuCboZ69oOaiAKZXpqyofaqprJiuPq9stz686sBmxorGrsy80B_Tj9P72L3ZXt-K42rkUekC6-7sg-yK7w7v6_Af8kX2SPfX-tL-Cv6B_o_-sw==?accountName=Undisputed22&characterName=Lilith_BIack

Path of building link:
https://pastebin.com/GnnYL3Ex

My main concern would be for me and my minions to survive endgame content. I feel like I will probably need to find a way to get to indomitable army and may tweak that part as I level up. Obviously my gear needs work (Xbox doesn't have anywhere close to the items on the market that PC players have access to). I am hitting about 1.3 million per Skelly with what I would call decent gear and that isn't factoring in the Chaos Golem damage reduction, AG auras, and Ruins Hellion Damage boost. What is everyone's thoughts?

Interesting for sure. The overall feel I get from this is: Aggressive!

Also, I wonder if losing the extra spirit shield buff is worth doing over more dps? And how much dps? If extra Spirit Shield from Doryani is enough? I don't know.

I said before that I really like the idea of triggering desecrate and offering when you cast skeletons. The uptime will be great. Annulling a 1/1 wand is not gonna happen for me. Yikes. So will have to be content with a +1 wand=damage decrease.

Thanks for this input!! I believe some will say that this build already has great dps and more defence is better. But in a way offence is also defence. I look forward to hear how it feels.

Thinking about it, and sorry because this diverges from your idea, but how about keeping Spirit offering in a CWDT setup and Flesh offering in a wand that trigger when casting spells. Then you would have the safety of Spirit offering when taking a big hit. Then immediately have the Flesh offering up and running again when you cast your skeletons. Bad idea?

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Niistokeppi escribió:

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Undisputed22 escribió:

I've heard people swear by the charges but also people dismiss them as not accurate. Anyone know how accurate those numbers are and the uptime of charges?

Host Chieftain is kinda useless, power charges are minimal boost and you will never have them up with 1-2 host's while resummoning skeltons all the time. You barely have 3 frenzy charges up on skeletons with 3 carnage chieftains while resummoning.

I opted for:
2-3x Carnage Chieftain: Frenzy charges.
1x Merveil's Retainer: Vulnerability for 13% more damage.
0-1x Ruins Hellion: 30% less damage taken from taunted mobs and some damage.

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glasgowsmile escribió:

I just realized I can't have Spirit Offering and Flesh offering up together... so it's a waste to have both since I'm doing Trigger wand.

I'm considering doing the trigger with Flesh and just removing Spirit but either way, what additional gem would be useful in my gloves?

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Undisputed22 escribió:

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glasgowsmile escribió:

I just realized I can't have Spirit Offering and Flesh offering up together... so it's a waste to have both since I'm doing Trigger wand.

I'm considering doing the trigger with Flesh and just removing Spirit but either way, what additional gem would be useful in my gloves?

The consensus here seems to be that Impale socketed with skeletons does more dps. You would then socket dread banner ideally with generousity supporting it.

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Dendol escribió:

1,7M - 2M dps...

2 Chief (Frenzy)
Merveil's (Vulnerability)
Ruins Hellion

Is there anything else to improve?