[3.4] Zerphi Poet VD - Easiest Uber Elder build - Twinned kill - 20000+ life recovery per sec

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_SleeZy_ escribió:

Only one issue i've encountered so far is lack of gem slot if i want to run kaom roots, so i might skip that all togheter.

Or maybe skip bloodrage and herald of ash and instead put righteus fire in the helmet togheter with auras/enlighten. Altho i wouln't need enlighten if i skipped herald i suppose.
But yea i feel realy socket starved.

My solution was to socket the auras into the helmet, then CWDT goes into boots. You can then socket blood rage or righteous fire into the Unearth Poet's Pen. You lose CWDT during Uber Elder, but I really didn't see much downside to that in my experience. I was able to tank every thing in the fight without even moving. And since you have the Life recovery from Flow Untethered, you'd still have move recovery than I do.

I see a lot of players use arctic armour and bodyswap. Does it work with bodyswap? I think that stationary status is lost when you bodyswap or I miss something?

Not 100% sure about this but,

You are stationary while attacking. When you cast bodyswap you are no longer stationary, but since you are moving instantly there is no chance of being hit. Then when you reappear at the end of the bodyswap, you are again stationary.

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Azur8 escribió:

I see a lot of players use arctic armour and bodyswap. Does it work with bodyswap? I think that stationary status is lost when you bodyswap or I miss something?

I'm not sure, i've yet to test it. But it would be realy easy to test. Use upgraded 2% hp regen phanteon, if u keep regening then it'll count as stationary.
I've a feeling it does.

Because i use the harpy supporterpack bird, and it'll constantly do its "idle" animation whenever im bodying around. So i get these cool purple lines of awesomeness while teleporting around, looks great!
I wish the bird would always make those line though.
It'll stop as soon as u move around. So ye that leads me to believe bodyswap still counts you as stationary.

Another fun fact is, you can use bodyswap while having hakus totem thing on ur back, which is otherwise dropped soon as you use a movement skill. But it doesn't with poets bodyswap.

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DackBradshaw escribió:

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_SleeZy_ escribió:

Only one issue i've encountered so far is lack of gem slot if i want to run kaom roots, so i might skip that all togheter.

Or maybe skip bloodrage and herald of ash and instead put righteus fire in the helmet togheter with auras/enlighten. Altho i wouln't need enlighten if i skipped herald i suppose.
But yea i feel realy socket starved.

My solution was to socket the auras into the helmet, then CWDT goes into boots. You can then socket blood rage or righteous fire into the Unearth Poet's Pen. You lose CWDT during Uber Elder, but I really didn't see much downside to that in my experience. I was able to tank every thing in the fight without even moving. And since you have the Life recovery from Flow Untethered, you'd still have move recovery than I do.

Ye well the problem i'm having is that if i want to use kaom roots, i can't use the boots sockets, which currently is my auras.

See here my setup:


So i basicly need to drop an aura say Herald, then use auras + RF instead of bloodrage in helmet for bossing. Since i can't cast my bloodrage without bloodmagic.

My skill cost 618 mana, and bloodrage is around 120+ i believe.
I've 40 mana free with my auras.

So i need either to not use kaom roots or change my setup abit.
I don't think i need the cwdt IC but it's nice to have however. (Edit: for the arakalli phanteon proc)

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_SleeZy_ escribió:

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Azur8 escribió:

I see a lot of players use arctic armour and bodyswap. Does it work with bodyswap? I think that stationary status is lost when you bodyswap or I miss something?

I'm not sure, i've yet to test it. But it would be realy easy to test. Use upgraded 2% hp regen phanteon, if u keep regening then it'll count as stationary.
I've a feeling it does.

Because i use the harpy supporterpack bird, and it'll constantly do its "idle" animation whenever im bodying around. So i get these cool purple lines of awesomeness while teleporting around, looks great!
I wish the bird would always make those line though.
It'll stop as soon as u move around. So ye that leads me to believe bodyswap still counts you as stationary.

Another fun fact is, you can use bodyswap while having hakus totem thing on ur back, which is otherwise dropped soon as you use a movement skill. But it doesn't with poets bodyswap.

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DackBradshaw escribió:

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_SleeZy_ escribió:

Only one issue i've encountered so far is lack of gem slot if i want to run kaom roots, so i might skip that all togheter.

Or maybe skip bloodrage and herald of ash and instead put righteus fire in the helmet togheter with auras/enlighten. Altho i wouln't need enlighten if i skipped herald i suppose.
But yea i feel realy socket starved.

My solution was to socket the auras into the helmet, then CWDT goes into boots. You can then socket blood rage or righteous fire into the Unearth Poet's Pen. You lose CWDT during Uber Elder, but I really didn't see much downside to that in my experience. I was able to tank every thing in the fight without even moving. And since you have the Life recovery from Flow Untethered, you'd still have move recovery than I do.

Ye well the problem i'm having is that if i want to use kaom roots, i can't use the boots sockets, which currently is my auras.

See here my setup:

So i basicly need to drop an aura say Herald, then use auras + RF instead of bloodrage in helmet for bossing. Since i can't cast my bloodrage without bloodmagic.

My skill cost 618 mana, and bloodrage is around 120+ i believe.
I've 40 mana free with my auras.

So i need either to not use kaom roots or change my setup abit.
I don't think i need the cwdt IC but it's nice to have however. (Edit: for the arakalli phanteon proc)

That's what I'm saying is you drop your CWDT and then put bloodrage or RF in your Poet's Pen. I guess if you REALLY need bodyswap then you can't do that. Otherwise drop Herald of Ash.

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Azur8 escribió:

I see a lot of players use arctic armour and bodyswap. Does it work with bodyswap? I think that stationary status is lost when you bodyswap or I miss something?

I tested with
The defence tab shows higher Armour while stationary, and I didn't see any change in it when Bodyswapping, also tested Flame Dash and Lightning Warp, those also keep you stationary, but Whirling Blades doesn't.

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_SleeZy_ escribió:

Also i highly recommend trying out the flow untethered it's 100% worth it, since it speeds up your entire char so it won't mess with the cast timings atleast it doesnt feel like it. It's basicly like perma acceleration shrine which improves clearspeed alot... Only sad part is it lasts 8 second then it's a cooldown.
But it does have cooldownreduction + the life recovery on same belt which is realy helpful and it's cheaper than many of the good rolled ones.

Don't use it, the buff the Harbinger gives ruins your cooldown at optimal attack speed, I tested it myself. If you don't see casts skipping while using that, then you have lower than optimal attack speed by default.

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Don't use it, the buff the Harbinger gives ruins your cooldown at optimal attack speed, I tested it myself. If you don't see casts skipping while using that, then you have lower than optimal attack speed by default.

Hmm it very much doesn't feel like it, and i'ts "action speed" which ups entire character, think of it as reverse temporal chains.
It's a more multiplier to your entire character.

But i guess i'll take your word for it. I'll keep it for mapping and use my hp /recovery belt for bossing.

My aps atm is 4.8 or 4.9.
My ultimate goal is getting a pair of 16% more attackspeedgloves with the 3 extra links, so i can boost the aps even more. Mainly for clearspeed purposes.

With my 0.19 cdr i should be at my premium speed at 4.8.
Keep in mind i use body swap while you don't, atleast not in your uber setup.

I've also corrupted poets for :

So i don't need the culling in there.
Maybe that's wehy we're confused here? Since i'm playing perma bodyswap setup.

And my mana cost is twice as high as yours so i've even more regen then you do. Well except with the legacy flask. (My current costs is 618)

Full gear:


Glove and boots shows empty due i'm using my MF setup atm for regular mapping which is:


My hp without the kaoms are 7300 ish, and can get more cuz i've about 6 more life nodes to take still. While having heart of flame cluster as well.
Need a few levels though.

Edit: also got this selfound belt i could use instead of untethered.

But it's to low cdr, so i prefer not to use it.

I guess i could save up for a better one, but atm i'm pretty happy with the flow untethered.
But ye i wonder if you tested it with the body swap setup or non, because without bodyswap i guess i'll start miss out. But it doesn't with this setup.

My only issue i feel is, if i want to use kaom roots, i've to do some major gem changes, such as drop cwdt ic run auras in helm -1 aura say HoA and use RF. Since i can't cast BR without BM in there.
And i don't want to put it inside my poets like a friendly guy above me suggested, since i realy want my bodyswap.
Else that would do the trick i suppose.

I've also experienced no skipping issues with The Flow Untethered on my PP Hierophant; with and without Bodyswap socketed. Maybe OP didn't account for the attack speed roll on the belt?

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DackBradshaw escribió:

I've also experienced no skipping issues with The Flow Untethered on my PP Hierophant; with and without Bodyswap socketed. Maybe OP didn't account for the attack speed roll on the belt?

AFAIK, the buff granted by the Harbinger of Time isn't any sort of attack speed increase, but rather an animation speed increase. Because of that, you can easily munch your casts if you are playing on Predictive mode, or your latency is high. When i was playing LL VD Poet's Pen with Indigon, I definitely noticed how messed up things would be with the Harbinger buff active, but it was fine when my latency wasn't above 40.