[3.5] The Blinding Blizzard - Whispering Ice CI Elequisitor - Viable For Everything

This build looks very interesting. But I have 1 question:

Why do we use herald of ash? wouldn't herald of ice do more damage?

If I calculated correctly, herald of ice adds 65.5 avg cold damage to spells (with ascendancy buff). That would be the equivalent to around 300 int. Or about a 17% more multiplier (which is more then herald of ash provides).

Or just use both and drop arctic armor?
because we dont deal anything but fire damage.
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pharaoh000 escribió:
because we dont deal anything but fire damage.

We still have 100% conversion from ice damage, so we can use herald of ice all the same.

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SeeD_MR escribió:
This build looks very interesting. But I have 1 question:

Why do we use herald of ash? wouldn't herald of ice do more damage?

If I calculated correctly, herald of ice adds 65.5 avg cold damage to spells (with ascendancy buff). That would be the equivalent to around 300 int. Or about a 17% more multiplier (which is more then herald of ash provides).

Or just use both and drop arctic armor?

I don't want to count myself, but PoB definitely think otherwise. So it's either some mechanics, that you didn't count, or PoB count damage incorrectly
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Med1umentor escribió:
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pharaoh000 escribió:
because we dont deal anything but fire damage.

We still have 100% conversion from ice damage, so we can use herald of ice all the same.

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SeeD_MR escribió:
This build looks very interesting. But I have 1 question:

Why do we use herald of ash? wouldn't herald of ice do more damage?

If I calculated correctly, herald of ice adds 65.5 avg cold damage to spells (with ascendancy buff). That would be the equivalent to around 300 int. Or about a 17% more multiplier (which is more then herald of ash provides).

Or just use both and drop arctic armor?

I don't want to count myself, but PoB definitely think otherwise. So it's either some mechanics, that you didn't count, or PoB count damage incorrectly

Damage Effectiveness (Icestorm): Damage from secondary sources like 'added damage' supports or heralds applies at only 30% of their listed value. Herald of Ash grants % more spell damage. That's it.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Icestorm

Editado por útlima vez por Windgaming#5308 en 19 abr. 2018 12:59:40
According to PoB, if I replace HoA with HoI (same level/quality), my effective DPS against uberbosses drops by 12%. HoI just doesn't add enough flat damage to compete with a MORE multiplier. And its clearspeed part doesn't work either since we don't do any cold damage.
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Windgaming escribió:
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Med1umentor escribió:
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pharaoh000 escribió:
because we dont deal anything but fire damage.

We still have 100% conversion from ice damage, so we can use herald of ice all the same.

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SeeD_MR escribió:
This build looks very interesting. But I have 1 question:

Why do we use herald of ash? wouldn't herald of ice do more damage?

If I calculated correctly, herald of ice adds 65.5 avg cold damage to spells (with ascendancy buff). That would be the equivalent to around 300 int. Or about a 17% more multiplier (which is more then herald of ash provides).

Or just use both and drop arctic armor?

I don't want to count myself, but PoB definitely think otherwise. So it's either some mechanics, that you didn't count, or PoB count damage incorrectly

Damage Effectiveness (Icestorm): Damage from secondary sources like 'added damage' supports or heralds applies at only 30% of their listed value. Herald of Ash grants % more spell damage. That's it.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Icestorm


Thanks for info. I knew that ash is better, but didn't quite knew why herald of ice didn't add enough damage. It was very informative.
Just spent all my savings (55 exalts) this league for this beauty :


My ES skyrocketed to 12.9K Energy Shield from 10.8K , and it has also perfect roll for ES gain on hit :)


Do you think i made a good deal for this price or i just vanished all my savings for almost nothing worthy?
Editado por útlima vez por lilianmarius#0775 en 19 abr. 2018 16:29:27
Considering the drop rate and the stupid low odds of getting both the mods on one... Yeah, probably a decent pickup at that price. I wanted one too, but, I can't fit in Clarity at any level with the Fen setup (Not that I can even afford it).

The max Discipline roll is nice, but, since you can divine them without worrying about changing the mod types it's not super valuable on its own.
if 18% mana gain is max then it perfect,
I would aim for perfect 2nd mod not the es gain on hit
Also good price imo.

and I think we can get clarity by corrupt the belt, or consider of dropping ascentral call.
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Windgaming escribió:
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Med1umentor escribió:
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pharaoh000 escribió:
because we dont deal anything but fire damage.

We still have 100% conversion from ice damage, so we can use herald of ice all the same.

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SeeD_MR escribió:
This build looks very interesting. But I have 1 question:

Why do we use herald of ash? wouldn't herald of ice do more damage?

If I calculated correctly, herald of ice adds 65.5 avg cold damage to spells (with ascendancy buff). That would be the equivalent to around 300 int. Or about a 17% more multiplier (which is more then herald of ash provides).

Or just use both and drop arctic armor?

I don't want to count myself, but PoB definitely think otherwise. So it's either some mechanics, that you didn't count, or PoB count damage incorrectly

Damage Effectiveness (Icestorm): Damage from secondary sources like 'added damage' supports or heralds applies at only 30% of their listed value. Herald of Ash grants % more spell damage. That's it.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Icestorm



I knew PoB puts Herald of Ash above Ice, but I didn't understand why till now. (since the added damage is more then the buff from Ash)
But the effectiveness of added sources being cut to 30% explains it. Thanks

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